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Old 01-05-2017, 06:27 PM
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With the years that have passed and all of the Crossfires that have been totaled and scrapped I can't help but wonder how many are still on the road.
 
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Using Ward's Automotive average annual scrappage rate of 5%, my guesstimate would be somewhere around 30-35K still on the road in the U.S. and approx 10-15K in rest-of world.
Difficult to quantify factors like the cars spent a lot of time on dealer & storage lots rather than being driven, the car is more of a toy than a DD with the requisite winter storage and the fact that many are totaled by insurance companies due to unavailable or outrageously priced body parts.
The actual Crossfires-in-operation counts are available from a couple companies here in the U.S. for a fee.

See below thread for a 2009 U.S. baseline:

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...cles+operation
 
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Thanks Harbor, sound reasonable to me. Do you know the names of any of those data companies? I know most Crossfires are not daily drivers however the ins. companies total them out frequently for reasonably minor accidents related to repair costs.
 
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Thanks Harbor, sound reasonable to me. Do you know the names of any of those data companies? I know most Crossfires are not daily drivers however the ins. companies total them out frequently for reasonably minor accidents related to repair costs.
IHS/Polk and Experian are the companies, with IHS having more of a global reach. Maybe CICCI would consider participation in the database fee?

FCA probably has the most accurate global Crossfire counts through their internal customer name & address database, but doubtful they would release it.
 
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Originally Posted by harbor
IHS/Polk and Experian are the companies, with IHS having more of a global reach. Maybe CICCI would consider participation in the database fee?

FCA probably has the most accurate global Crossfire counts through their internal customer name & address database, but doubtful they would release it.

FCA wouldn't release GAS out of their collective a$$es if a customer of FCA would benefit from it.

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FCA wouldn't release GAS out of their collective a$$es if a customer of FCA would benefit from it.

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Boy, you really sound bitter toward FCA, by the way how is the air bag situation these days?
 
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Boy, you really sound bitter toward FCA, by the way how is the air bag situation these days?
You're mean! I don't want to play with you anymore!
 
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Originally Posted by GraphiteGhost
FCA wouldn't release GAS out of their collective a$$es if a customer of FCA would benefit from it.
LOL!!!

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News Flash today: Chrysler DID REVEAL (in Jan/2010) to NHTSA the FACT that "near the end of 2005... process changes were made to improve back glass adhesion to the convertible top "!!!
Da-n Daimler/Chrysler... where were you when we needed you???
"Chrysler Group LLC" even went so far as to say that the defroster wires served as an additional retention of the glass to the convertible top!?!! What a load of BULLS-IT!!! They also revealed to NHTSA that CA & MI ranked numbers 4 & 5 in incidents, ahead of NC & GA, and that AZ, PA & NJ were ahead of 10th, 11th & 12th ranked SC, TN & VA!!! Poor Ole MS was ranked 14th and eventually excluded from their 9 State "customer satisfaction" Warranty of Nov/2011!!!
THERE OUGHTA BE A LAW!!!
 

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