Mystery no start issue

[pizzaguy]

I know, MikeR.

Just in a "mood" tonight.

[MikeR]

Hey, you said your were from Georgia.....

[pizzaguy]

No, I am from MICHIGAN - I LIVE in Georgia.

Anyway, time for bed.

[sa_red]

Thanks GDC-SRT, Steven's Toys, and tighed1!

Boy you all respond quickly! I like this forum!

So now I asked my husband, "what is the definition of "is", oh, I mean "crank"? Hahaha.

All kidding aside,tighed1, I read your reply to him about cranking or not cranking. He said when he turns the key, he hears it try to start but it won't turn over. So I'm assuming that means we need the CPS replaced since he already re-soldered the 3 points on the RCM. Right?

Also, did the "check engine" light go off because he re-soldered the 3 points on the RCM?

(If my dad could only hear me now, talkin' car talk with the guys...)

[tighed1]

Originally Posted by sa_red

All kidding aside,tighed1, I read your reply to him about cranking or not cranking. He said when he turns the key, he hears it try to start but it won't turn over. So I'm assuming that means we need the CPS replaced since he already re-soldered the 3 points on the RCM. Right?

Also, did the "check engine" light go off because he re-soldered the 3 points on the RCM?

Based on the car NOT cranking it does sound like a CPS problem. Rockauto.com has the CPS at a good price. Part number is somewhere here on the forum.

The check engine light went out because you basically reset it when you disconnected the RCM. If you get the car running again and the problem is the CPS you just might get your CEL back.

[sa_red]

Thanks for the reply. We were the opposite. My husband wanted to trade it in, but I said no way. I love my XFire. Looks like our problem may be the CPS though. We'll see...wish me luck.

Originally Posted by Steven's Toys

SA_RED,
My wife is a nurse and this same thing happened to her several times on her way to and from work. She was livid and wanted to sell the car. I went ahead and replaced the module instead of trying to fix it and I have been so happy ever since. We have not had a single "won't start" or have it die in traffic. She now loves her car again and I would recommend replacing the module instead of trying to fix the old one.
Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.
Once again - happy Crossfired owners!!

[sa_red]

Originally Posted by tighed1

Based on the car NOT cranking it does sound like a CPS problem. Rockauto.com has the CPS at a good price. Part number is somewhere here on the forum.

The check engine light went out because you basically reset it when you disconnected the RCM. If you get the car running again and the problem is the CPS you just might get your CEL back.

Thanks tighed1, GDC-SRT sent me the link for the CPS, and MikeR posted the NAPA part number for the CPS (Bausch # Napa part number is CSS9028). He recommended Bausch because generic is too long. If they don't have it I'll go with Rocketauto.com.

Hopefully I'll find one tomorrow so my husband can replace it and get me back on the road. Thanks for all your help. I'll let y'all know tomorrow evening if it worked.

[tighed1]

Originally Posted by sa_red

Thanks for all your help. I'll let y'all know tomorrow evening if it worked.

PLEASE do!
Too many times folks have problems and then don't reply with what the fix finally was.
Good luck!

[sa_red]

Originally Posted by tighed1

PLEASE do!
Too many times folks have problems and then don't reply with what the fix finally was.
Good luck!

Just a note to let you know that I have to order the CPS from the NAPA dealer. They want a deposit but won't take a credit card over the phone, which of course delays this whole thing for another 2 days. I'll go there & order it in the morning, it'll get here the next day (I hope), and then we'll replace it.

Oh, & I learned how rude auto parts guys can be when a woman is asking about a part. Unbelievable!
A few pretty much let me know I couldn't possibly know what I was talking about and said to have my husband call.

[pizzaguy]

I understand your frustration with them, but remember that they may have been trying to look out for you - not wanting you to spend money on something you don't need.

Or, maybe they are just jerks.

[sa_red]

Thanks pizzaguy, you're probably right. Although one guy really was being a jerk. I guess I wasn't expecting it because you all have been so nice.

I'm also happy to say I ordered the part from AutohausAZ after seeing the info posted (crankshaft position sensor page 3) by Valkryderguy for only $40.81. I paid for express mail to get it ASAP and still paid less than I would have at the NAPA supplier.


Once again, you guys are the greatest!

Quick question: Does anyone know where I can get a sun visor? The "hinge" or "spring" or whatever holds them up broke and I can't find another visor anywhere.

[MikeR]

sun visor? those things come down? wow!.....sorry, havent heard of anyone needing to replace one of them. I couldnt find one listed in a quick search.

part number for left side is.....0YN79XDVAA

Part number for right side is...0YN80XDVAA

[tighed1]

Originally Posted by sa_red

Quick question: Does anyone know where I can get a sun visor? The "hinge" or "spring" or whatever holds them up broke and I can't find another visor anywhere.

Contact CrossfireKat. She is parting out a XF. Didn't list the visors but they may be available.

LINKY

[sa_red]

Yea!! The CPS arrived today, but too cold this evening to work on it. My husband will work on it tomorrow morning and maybe I'll be driving it again by lunchtime.

Thanks for the info on the visor. I left a note with CrossfireKat to see if any visors are available. I also found a pair listed on eBay. I'm only 5"3" and even with the seat in the highest position, the sun blinds me without the visor (not that they're the greatest visors...definitely room for improvement, but they help). My husband is 6'7" and of course, never has to use the visors, which brings me to the one and only complaint I have about my XFire...I wish it had "memory seating".

I'll let y'all know tomorrow if we have success with the CPS replacement.

[green-ghost]

Originally Posted by sa_red

Yea!! The CPS arrived today, but too cold this evening to work on it. My husband will work on it tomorrow morning and maybe I'll be driving it again by lunchtime.

Thanks for the info on the visor. I left a note with CrossfireKat to see if any visors are available. I also found a pair listed on eBay. I'm only 5"3" and even with the seat in the highest position, the sun blinds me without the visor (not that they're the greatest visors...definitely room for improvement, but they help). My husband is 6'7" and of course, never has to use the visors, which brings me to the one and only complaint I have about my XFire...I wish it had "memory seating".

I'll let y'all know tomorrow if we have success with the CPS replacement.

And he fits in the XF!? There was a recent thread where a guy, 6'3" I believe, that was barely fiting and hitting his shins. Your husband would be an inspiration to him

[sa_red]

Well, green-ghost, it is a bit snug for him, but as long as the seat is as far back as possible and as low as it'll go, it's comfortable. Oh and he does have to tilt the seat slightly so his knees clear the steering column. He prefers driving my car any day over driving his truck.

Unfortunately, he had to put in a 15 hr day so he wasn't able to fix my car, but we're both off tomorrow. So, once again, we plan on replacing the part in the morning. I'll let y'all know how it goes.

[sa_red]

Just a note of thanks to everyone here also. We replaced the CPS (after soldering the points on the RCM didn't fix the "no start issue") and the car is purring like it used to.

I would like to mention one thing to others that decide to replace the CPS if soldering the RCM doesn't fix the problem. Buy the E series star socket set. The E10 was recommended, but was too big. We bought the set, so we tried the E8 and it fit perfectly. After that, it was easy as pie to replace the part.

And for all you women out there that love their XFires, you can fix this yourself with the help of all these great guys here on this forum.

[Stogey]

Hey SA_RED ! Check out the South Forum for GTG's with Central Texas Crossfires ! You and the hubby are welcome to join us for fun, fellowship and cruising the Texas Hill Country !
Glad to hear you got your baby " purring " again !

Stogey