Everything Dead
Everything Dead
I've had my 2005 Crossfire Convertible Roadster for about four years and had a few strange problems I categorize as electrical or sensor-related. In most cases re-seating the convertible top carrier in the truck seemed to fix the problem.
I've also had problems with the battery going dead. I thought it was because I didn't drive the car enough, but I no longer think that's the problem. Now my car is completely dead. The first thing I did was make sure the battery was charged. Still nothing. No lights or anything when I insert the key. Everything seems to be completely dead. I would call AAA to jump start it, but it's clear it's not just a battery problem. My best guess is that a critical sensor is offline preventing anything from working.
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. At this point I'm ready to have it towed to a shop.
Thanks,
Ron
I've also had problems with the battery going dead. I thought it was because I didn't drive the car enough, but I no longer think that's the problem. Now my car is completely dead. The first thing I did was make sure the battery was charged. Still nothing. No lights or anything when I insert the key. Everything seems to be completely dead. I would call AAA to jump start it, but it's clear it's not just a battery problem. My best guess is that a critical sensor is offline preventing anything from working.
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. At this point I'm ready to have it towed to a shop.
Thanks,
Ron
Re: Everything Dead
I've had my 2005 Crossfire Convertible Roadster for about four years and had a few strange problems I categorize as electrical or sensor-related. In most cases re-seating the convertible top carrier in the truck seemed to fix the problem.
I've also had problems with the battery going dead. I thought it was because I didn't drive the car enough, but I no longer think that's the problem. Now my car is completely dead. The first thing I did was make sure the battery was charged. Still nothing. No lights or anything when I insert the key. Everything seems to be completely dead. I would call AAA to jump start it, but it's clear it's not just a battery problem. My best guess is that a critical sensor is offline preventing anything from working.
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. At this point I'm ready to have it towed to a shop.
Thanks,
Ron
I've also had problems with the battery going dead. I thought it was because I didn't drive the car enough, but I no longer think that's the problem. Now my car is completely dead. The first thing I did was make sure the battery was charged. Still nothing. No lights or anything when I insert the key. Everything seems to be completely dead. I would call AAA to jump start it, but it's clear it's not just a battery problem. My best guess is that a critical sensor is offline preventing anything from working.
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated. At this point I'm ready to have it towed to a shop.
Thanks,
Ron
- When AAA arrived and "jumped" the car, did it start?
- What is the date of the battery?
- What color case does the battery have, black or white?
- Do you have a battery tender in use, during the dormant times it's not driven?
- The systems are very sensitive to minor fluctuations in the battery output, creating crazy scenarios, electronically.
Dennis
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Re: Everything Dead
Ron
Dennis
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- When AAA arrived and "jumped" the car, did it start?
- What is the date of the battery?
- What color case does the battery have, black or white?
- Do you have a battery tender in use, during the dormant times it's not driven?
- The systems are very sensitive to minor fluctuations in the battery output, creating crazy scenarios, electronically.
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Re: Everything Dead
If you dont even get lights on the dash when you turn the key on, it has to the be 200 amp fuse in the box next to the battery OR you have SEVERLY corroded battery cables (and the far end of the battery ground cable has been an issue, it is hidden but corrodes.)
LOOKING at the 200 amp fuse won't tell you if it is blown, a simple check with a meter is all it takes to find that out.
This should be an easy one!
LOOKING at the 200 amp fuse won't tell you if it is blown, a simple check with a meter is all it takes to find that out.
This should be an easy one!
Re: Everything Dead
If you dont even get lights on the dash when you turn the key on, it has to the be 200 amp fuse in the box next to the battery OR you have SEVERLY corroded battery cables (and the far end of the battery ground cable has been an issue, it is hidden but corrodes.)
LOOKING at the 200 amp fuse won't tell you if it is blown, a simple check with a meter is all it takes to find that out.
This should be an easy one!
LOOKING at the 200 amp fuse won't tell you if it is blown, a simple check with a meter is all it takes to find that out.
This should be an easy one!
But I have had problems with the battery going dead. Like I said, at first I thought it was because I didn't drive it enough, but now I think there's a problem with the alternator not keeping it charged. I bought a batter charger / tender a couple years ago and haven't had the problem since.
Any and all other suggestions will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ron
Re: Everything Dead
I have suspected a problem with the alternator for a while, but in the past when the car wouldn't start I just had to charge the battery or get a jump but it was never completely dead. At least some instruments lights would come on. Plus this happened suddenly when I had been driving the car regularly.
Could a bad alternator cause it to go completely dead like this?
Ron
Could a bad alternator cause it to go completely dead like this?
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Measure the battery voltage - right across it's terminals - if you have battery voltage and no lights/etc., then the 200 amp fuse is blown or you have an open crimp/clamp/etc. somewhere.
If you have no battery voltage, the battery is dead. (This can be due to current draw when the car is sitting or <and I had this happen years ago> you have a broken connection between a battery post and battery plate. This can happen from age or from flexing of the connection between the battery post and plate - caused by weaknesses in the construction of the battery's housing.)
A voltmeter will tell you all you need to know, no mater what is wrong here.
If you have no battery voltage, the battery is dead. (This can be due to current draw when the car is sitting or <and I had this happen years ago> you have a broken connection between a battery post and battery plate. This can happen from age or from flexing of the connection between the battery post and plate - caused by weaknesses in the construction of the battery's housing.)
A voltmeter will tell you all you need to know, no mater what is wrong here.
Re: Everything Dead
Measure the battery voltage - right across it's terminals - if you have battery voltage and no lights/etc., then the 200 amp fuse is blown or you have an open crimp/clamp/etc. somewhere.
If you have no battery voltage, the battery is dead. (This can be due to current draw when the car is sitting or <and I had this happen years ago> you have a broken connection between a battery post and battery plate. This can happen from age or from flexing of the connection between the battery post and plate - caused by weaknesses in the construction of the battery's housing.)
A voltmeter will tell you all you need to know, no mater what is wrong here.
If you have no battery voltage, the battery is dead. (This can be due to current draw when the car is sitting or <and I had this happen years ago> you have a broken connection between a battery post and battery plate. This can happen from age or from flexing of the connection between the battery post and plate - caused by weaknesses in the construction of the battery's housing.)
A voltmeter will tell you all you need to know, no mater what is wrong here.
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Here's my take. Unless this is a daily driver, your battery is toast. I don't drive either of mine enough, and they will go dead because there are still things, like the radio, still pulling a few amps from the battery while it sits. Over time, it will take away the cranking amps, and she won't start. You jump it, or charge it, but do you ever really get the battery all the way back up? Probably not. The car is very voltage sensitive. Batteries will fail. This car demands a good battery. Daily drivers don't have these problems until 3-5 yrs down the road. Cars that are weekender's or short distance will have more problems. It is best to unhook the positive cable if you aren't going to drive it. Even battery tenders didn't help my cause. Over time, the batteries just fail. Put a new battery in and all's well. Corrosion can cause this as well, and you won't ever see it. You have to unplug and plug things in from time to time to make sure you have a good clean connection. And, lastly, it hates moisture. So, look at everything electrical for corrosion
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Re: Everything Dead
Take ground cable off and movement around the car, may just find a ground somewhere.....
OK, I'll go with you - remove the stinkin battery.
Re: Everything Dead
You don't have to agree with me.....but I have been there with the maintainers and I am just done with it. It is frustrating to say the least. I went thru 4 small batteries, and I finally went back to full size. Keep in mind, this isn't FL weather up here. And last year was a cold winter, wet and cold. You either have to drive them, or get ready for battery problems. Now, even though I have went thru a few batteries, I have not had any of the usual glitzes that come with it. Nothing to speak of. Go figure