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what kind of tool(s) would I use to remove the bolt on the crankshaft position motor? Thanks in advance
 
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what kind of tool(s) would I use to remove the bolt on the crankshaft position motor? Thanks in advance
Down load this and see the tools required.
 
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This is an excellent post. Photos make the job so much easier for fat-fingered mechanics like me.....if I can borrow the job title for the weekend. My Crossfire has stalled 3 times in the last 3 days, with subsequent Check Engine light. Very long cranking required to restart each time. Pep Buys read the code which translated to Crankshaft Sensor Position A. Was worried there would be 3 or 4 sensors, and be impossible to get to, as opposed to merely hard to reach and pinch.

Appreciate your wisdom and excellent photography onehundred80. Will post results.....if successful.
 
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To anyone buying a crankshaft sensor be sure to buy ONLY the Bosch brand
Others will not work and you will still have issues


https://www.germanautosupply.com/sto...sensor-86.html
 
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To anyone buying a crankshaft sensor be sure to buy ONLY the Bosch brand
Others will not work and you will still have issues


https://www.germanautosupply.com/sto...sensor-86.html
I fully endorse getting the Bosch if it's available ..


In a bind though.. well my Advanced Auto one is going on 2 1/2 years without missing a beat. With a lifetime free replacement. Others haven't been so lucky.. but if I have to make a choice of wrecker or sitting on the road... or heading to the parts store...


Plan ahead and buy that Bosch though!
 
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You may get lucky with the Borg Warner CPS, some do, I didn't. Bosch seems to have a greater success rate with replacement CPS's. It hurts me to admit this. Which ever you use, be sure the connector is clean and properly assembled.

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Originally Posted by VALK
To anyone buying a crankshaft sensor be sure to buy ONLY the Bosch brand
Others will not work and you will still have issues


https://www.germanautosupply.com/sto...sensor-86.html
AutohausAZ has it for $34.86

Your Parts Search Returned 2 Part(s)
 
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Any ideas for someone without the finger strength to pinch the connector and pull at the same time? I have rather small hands, but still getting chewed up by the shield next to the sensor and the edges of the engine. My son hasn't been able to do it either. Doesn't matter which sensor I get if I can't even removed the bad one.
 
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FIRST of all, you CAN remove the connector AFTER you take the screw and sensor out - I thought of that AFTER I struggled and broke the retaining latch on the connector.

Try taking the screw out first, then pullling out the sensor/wire harness as one assembly.
 
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Of course, you will drop the bolt - so maybe put some tape or something in the socket to try to increase grip....
 
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Of course, you will drop the bolt - so maybe put some tape or something in the socket to try to increase grip....


Yep.. break the bolt loose.. then a piece of duct tap over the top with the socket should make a snug fit and hold the bolt.
 
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Pizzaguy and Mrmiata, thanks for the guidance. It's worth a try. Duct tape over the bolt head....very creative. I'd thought about trying to pull the unit out as an assembly, but didn't want to risk cracking the sensor connector. Sounds like others have met with success. I'll let you know how I make out.
 
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Sometimes I need to kick myself. Assistance is requested, assistance is freely given, but sometimes not ALL of the advice is followed. You see, I had already purchased the Crankshaft Position Sensor from Pep Boys. They told me it was a Borg Warner part, so I assumed German was German, and bought it. AFTERWARDS, multiple members advised against anything but Bosch.

Turns out, the part was made in Taiwan, and didn't work. My Crossfire stalls occasionally with the bad sensor, but wouldn't start at all with the BWD part. At least I now have several deinstall/reinstall episodes under my belt, and will now search diligently for a locally sourced Bosch part....and I promise to follow all instructions in the future.

By the way, super easy to extract the sensor with the lead still attached. In fact, I get two hands in there, crack the bolt loose with the ratchet, then use just the extensions while raising the sensor with the other hand. The screw comes out with the sensor and connector. On reinstall, I use a small bit of packing tape around the socket and the bolt, it grips well, and is thinner, and cheaper than Duct tape.
 
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Sometimes I need to kick myself. Assistance is requested, assistance is freely given, but sometimes not ALL of the advice is followed. You see, I had already purchased the Crankshaft Position Sensor from Pep Boys. They told me it was a Borg Warner part, so I assumed German was German, and bought it. AFTERWARDS, multiple members advised against anything but Bosch.

Turns out, the part was made in Taiwan, and didn't work. My Crossfire stalls occasionally with the bad sensor, but wouldn't start at all with the BWD part. At least I now have several deinstall/reinstall episodes under my belt, and will now search diligently for a locally sourced Bosch part....and I promise to follow all instructions in the future.

By the way, super easy to extract the sensor with the lead still attached. In fact, I get two hands in there, crack the bolt loose with the ratchet, then use just the extensions while raising the sensor with the other hand. The screw comes out with the sensor and connector. On reinstall, I use a small bit of packing tape around the socket and the bolt, it grips well, and is thinner, and cheaper than Duct tape.
Try cleaning the contacts on the old CPS. Some say the problem may lie in poor contacts. Pull the plug on and off a few times and spray with contact cleaner if you have any.
'They' say the contacts on the non Bosch parts may have larger holes in the socket and not fit the cable connector too well.
 
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Also, wipe the "probe" end off - there was a guy here who theorized that metal flakes and etc. on the probe were confusing the sensor inside.

You may be wasting your time looking locally - try autohaus.com and germanautosupply.com (as well as Amazon - but they steal your identity and kill butterflies).

You want a Bosch
0 261 210 170

The Mercedes number is
003 153 27 28

Use either of those numbers in a search on those sites and you'll be fine - don't let it bother you that it won't mention fitting a Crossfire.
 

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Also, wipe the "probe" end off - there was a guy here who theorized that metal flakes and etc. on the probe were confusing the sensor inside.

You may be wasting your time looking locally - try autohaus.com and germanautosupply.com (as well as Amazon - but they steal your identity and kill butterflies).

You want a Bosch
0 261 210 170

The Mercedes number is
003 153 27 28

Use either of those numbers in a search on those sites and you'll be fine - don't let it bother you that it won't mention fitting a Crossfire.
Sorry about the butterflies....I could get it faster and a bit cheaper from Amazon. Bought 2 to have one on hand against a future failure. Successfully started car and checked that codes were cleared. Made it 46,779 miles on the original, hoping for the same or better on the Bosch replacement.

Could not (would not) have done it without support from this forum. Thanks to all for direct and moral support.
 
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Made it 46,779 miles on the original, hoping for the same or better on the Bosch replacement.
I think you'll find that the original was a Bosch part.
 
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Lowe's item# 240856 Kobalt 23pc Star Bit set, $35.97+tax and a bit of non-conduction grease
Shop Kobalt 23-Piece 3/8-in Drive Torx Driver Socket Set with Case at Lowes.com
 

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I made the mistake of buying 3/8" Torx set first. It didn't fit. Perhaps it could if you can get the sensor off first. I had to return and buy the 1/4" set.

I kept both sizes, in case I need greater torque on future Torx bolts, but definitely vote for the 1/4" socket for this task.
 
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