Interior Condensation?
Re: Interior Condensation?
Hey 180, I understand about the rubber flange and water. Thanks. Are you saying that this annoyance of window fogging is not going away, that it is inherent with the Crossfire? I do keep airflow to the windshield (constant to some degree) but sometimes after the car sits and is restarted, you MUST turn on the a/c prior to entering traffic to see if any hot air will fog the window. If it does and does so heavily, visibility is 0. I would have to pull over and stop. Since I am aware of the condition, I am careful but sometimes the fogging is unavoidable, or so it seems. Any suggestions?
Re: Interior Condensation?
Hey 180, I understand about the rubber flange and water. Thanks. Are you saying that this annoyance of window fogging is not going away, that it is inherent with the Crossfire? I do keep airflow to the windshield (constant to some degree) but sometimes after the car sits and is restarted, you MUST turn on the a/c prior to entering traffic to see if any hot air will fog the window. If it does and does so heavily, visibility is 0. I would have to pull over and stop. Since I am aware of the condition, I am careful but sometimes the fogging is unavoidable, or so it seems. Any suggestions?
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Yes 180, I agree. Most cars do experience window fogging under the conditions that you have described. With the CF, as I indicated prior, it is so bad that visibility becomes 0. Maybe it's also because a person (body temperature) is sitting in a very small cabin and the imbalance of temps of outside to inside exacerbate the fogging condition. If 2 people, even worse? The first time this happened to me, I was teaching my son the stick shift on a Frontage road soon after acquiring the CF. I had never seen such a fogging and it took the a/c a long time to clear the window. I appreciate your sensitivity and knowledge and thank you for your continued responses! I just order the wiper flange for $2.70. They wanted me to come in and prepay but I talked the parts guy into ordering the part "on credit". The plastic cover for the bolt on the wiper is around $15. Was missing when I purchased the CF. Not a big deal. Thanks again.
Re: Interior Condensation?
Yes 180, I agree. Most cars do experience window fogging under the conditions that you have described. With the CF, as I indicated prior, it is so bad that visibility becomes 0. Maybe it's also because a person (body temperature) is sitting in a very small cabin and the imbalance of temps of outside to inside exacerbate the fogging condition. If 2 people, even worse? The first time this happened to me, I was teaching my son the stick shift on a Frontage road soon after acquiring the CF. I had never seen such a fogging and it took the a/c a long time to clear the window. I appreciate your sensitivity and knowledge and thank you for your continued responses! I just order the wiper flange for $2.70. They wanted me to come in and prepay but I talked the parts guy into ordering the part "on credit". The plastic cover for the bolt on the wiper is around $15. Was missing when I purchased the CF. Not a big deal. Thanks again.
Stick it down with contact cement or something like that.
The flange fitting will require a little modification to the cowl as the hole is generally not on center, I did a how to on that problem. The cowl hole is not big enough and needs to be cut larger on the correct center.
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180- I did review your prior post about the offset wiper arm, etc. and also noticed that the passenger side is not centered but that the rubber flange is somehow in position. I did not quite follow your prior post but I can look again a bit closer. Once I receive the rubber flange, I can mess with it. Do you have any theory why 2 CF'ers, yours and mine both have missing driver side rubber grommet flanges????? For the cap for the wiper bolt, I purchased a plastic furniture leg bottom, cut it short and did exactly what you suggested and adhered it with some adhesive. I have also noticed that every CF is missing the caps for the wiper bolts both sides. Mine was only missing the driver side.
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180- I did review your prior post about the offset wiper arm, etc. and also noticed that the passenger side is not centered but that the rubber flange is somehow in position. I did not quite follow your prior post but I can look again a bit closer. Once I receive the rubber flange, I can mess with it. Do you have any theory why 2 CF'ers, yours and mine both have missing driver side rubber grommet flanges????? For the cap for the wiper bolt, I purchased a plastic furniture leg bottom, cut it short and did exactly what you suggested and adhered it with some adhesive. I have also noticed that every CF is missing the caps for the wiper bolts both sides. Mine was only missing the driver side.
Adding the missing isolator.
Last edited by onehundred80; 03-19-2015 at 04:00 PM.
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180- so you are saying a have to use a dremel metal cutting tool to surgically open the hole so the wiper arm is more centered??? I have one of those all purpose tools with interchangeable parts for cutting, I may have a dremel somewhere. Not to sure a like the idea of cutting into the metal for a part that does not seem to matter much…………. When I get the part, I'll fuss with it. Thanks.
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Here's how I see it.
One day a CAD engineer at Chrysler ( or MB, who cares ) is working on the cowl design, his wife calls and says "I'm leaving you and taking the kids !"
His mouse slips at that and the driver side hole is now 5mm low and 5mm off to the center. He doesn't realize it and submits the design, lit looks right
with 2 holes, so 80,000 of them get made and delivered before assembly realizes that the DS grommet ain't gonna fit.
Management is notified, bean counters are consulted and the cost to redo is calculated at 1.2 million dollars.
Management makes the decision to go ahead with the current supply
and informs assembly that they have too many grommets now, to return half for a refund.
This makes management look good, and they figure us unwashed masses will never be wiser.
One day a CAD engineer at Chrysler ( or MB, who cares ) is working on the cowl design, his wife calls and says "I'm leaving you and taking the kids !"
His mouse slips at that and the driver side hole is now 5mm low and 5mm off to the center. He doesn't realize it and submits the design, lit looks right
with 2 holes, so 80,000 of them get made and delivered before assembly realizes that the DS grommet ain't gonna fit.
Management is notified, bean counters are consulted and the cost to redo is calculated at 1.2 million dollars.
Management makes the decision to go ahead with the current supply
and informs assembly that they have too many grommets now, to return half for a refund.
This makes management look good, and they figure us unwashed masses will never be wiser.
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No no no, you almost got the story straight: the GIRLFRIEND of the engineer calls and says she is pregnant. His mouse slips and the rest you got perfect. The only caveat, is that management decides to pay for the divorce proceedings because the company was making the engineers work overtime when he received the call. When the call came in, he SHOULD have been on his break, so management felt obligated to avoid a lawsuit because of the overtime issue. Then, the engineer is offered a position of head engineer but decides to take a job at Toyota that includes sub contracts for airbags. Then the dang faulty airbag issue becomes global headlines with 6.4 million vehicle (recall). Management at Toyota threatens him and tells him to keep his mouse in his pants because he is still scr@%ing around…………….:
Re: Interior Condensation?
180- so you are saying a have to use a dremel metal cutting tool to surgically open the hole so the wiper arm is more centered??? I have one of those all purpose tools with interchangeable parts for cutting, I may have a dremel somewhere. Not to sure a like the idea of cutting into the metal for a part that does not seem to matter much…………. When I get the part, I'll fuss with it. Thanks.
Naturally your fingers are behind the cutting edge, so no blood is spilled during this little job.
Edit
I see I said I took the cowl off to carve it, I mis-spoke as the politicians up here say. I took off the cowl to clean the drains and put it back on while the part was ordered, I also used the Olpha knife not the Xacto knife I state above, that is one of those knifes with the snap off blades. A thin X-ACTO knife with a strong blade might be better though.
Last edited by onehundred80; 03-19-2015 at 07:10 PM.
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Sounds easy enough to shave the cowl opening, thanks for the directions. I'm not sure you were in the thread about the 3rd brake light and adding the $5 module that creates the pulsating 3rd brake light. Completed that task, works great- nice safety issue. My wife was impressed! Maybe folks will stay back or go around. Fine with me.
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Sounds easy enough to shave the cowl opening, thanks for the directions. I'm not sure you were in the thread about the 3rd brake light and adding the $5 module that creates the pulsating 3rd brake light. Completed that task, works great- nice safety issue. My wife was impressed! Maybe folks will stay back or go around. Fine with me.
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Are you referring to the cabin air filter behind the glove compartment? If so, if moisture can get to the filter, it would seem reasonable for the moist air to fog up the window. The question remains if there is any solution for a remedy if in fact it's the cabin filter getting moist/wet. Thanks for your posting and thoughts.
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Are you referring to the cabin air filter behind the glove compartment? If so, if moisture can get to the filter, it would seem reasonable for the moist air to fog up the window. The question remains if there is any solution for a remedy if in fact it's the cabin filter getting moist/wet. Thanks for your posting and thoughts.
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Re: Interior Condensation?
I know this is an old thread, but the title is exactly the issue I'm seeing on my Coupe. For example, I checked the car today and the steering wheel, instrument cluster & dash were covered in condensation. This issue has surfaced just in the past 6 months or so. With the cold weather right now, condensation was really significant today. Had to wipe down the steering wheel, dash & instrument cluster. Felt the carpet and didn't detect any moisture which would indicate a drainage leak from elsewhere. All window seals look to be in good condition.
Storage Conditions: I keep the car parked in the driveway under a car cover as the garage is already full of other vehicles. I have stored it this way from the beginning (12 years of ownership). I also place a windshield screen inside the cabin.
Storage Conditions: I keep the car parked in the driveway under a car cover as the garage is already full of other vehicles. I have stored it this way from the beginning (12 years of ownership). I also place a windshield screen inside the cabin.