P51 North American Mustang
P51 North American Mustang
Lee Lauderback flies the demo from the "Horsemen Routine". This is one of two dual control Mustangs based in Kissimmee Fl. for the right price, YOU can fly the back seat ! 
http://www.airshowbuzz.com/videos/view.php?v=baccdea1
Enjoy !
http://www.airshowbuzz.com/videos/view.php?v=baccdea1
Enjoy !
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should get a subsrciption to air and space, I thnk they had an article in there about 6 months ago, describing how Luffwaffe pilots would climb up high, then dive in fast and wack through bombers' fusalage. I think they even had the 109's built special with a reinforced leading edge
This was pretty much the safest way to take out a heavy bomber because they where so well protected with cannons every where. Cant really sneak up from behind and shoot them down now could you. had to be fast and brutal. this is probably why there where so few fighter pilots and hardly any aces left over at the end of ww2, all the crazy pilots didn't live very long
This was pretty much the safest way to take out a heavy bomber because they where so well protected with cannons every where. Cant really sneak up from behind and shoot them down now could you. had to be fast and brutal. this is probably why there where so few fighter pilots and hardly any aces left over at the end of ww2, all the crazy pilots didn't live very long
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You mean - war was over cause mustangs were showing?
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Vermacht soldiers had a joke at the end of war:
When you see a cam paint planes - its RAF, when aluminium - its USAF, when theres no planes - ITS LUFTWAFFE!
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Vermacht soldiers had a joke at the end of war:
When you see a cam paint planes - its RAF, when aluminium - its USAF, when theres no planes - ITS LUFTWAFFE!
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I have several favorites, the P-38, the F-4, P-51 and the B-17 to name just a few.
I just think it's pretty awesome to still see some of them flying. A small contingent of the ole Confederate Air Force Texas Wing, are based just down the road in San Marcos. Once in awhile on the weekend you can hear the distinct sound of the big radial engines flyin overhead.
I would love to be lucky enough to fly one, but the price for a back seat ride is a lil outta my budget considering gas will probably hit $ 4 bucko's a gallon this summer.
Hope you enjoyed the video !
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I just think it's pretty awesome to still see some of them flying. A small contingent of the ole Confederate Air Force Texas Wing, are based just down the road in San Marcos. Once in awhile on the weekend you can hear the distinct sound of the big radial engines flyin overhead.
I would love to be lucky enough to fly one, but the price for a back seat ride is a lil outta my budget considering gas will probably hit $ 4 bucko's a gallon this summer.
Hope you enjoyed the video !
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Maxwell -
I don't think the Germans ever strengthend their planes to survive slicing into a bomber by ramming. Their aircraft structures just weren't designed to take that kind of an impact. What the Germans did do was add additional armor to their planes so the planes and pilots could survive long enough to shoot down a bomber before being shot down themselves. They also had a unit or two dedicated to ramming bombers, much like a Japanese kamakazi. The pilots were either very patriotic or assigned to the units after falling out of favor.
Gibsonjunkie -
By the time the P-51 was operating in large numbers German pilot training and overall experience was in decline. So although it looked like the P-51 was the main cause of the defeat of the German airforce it was more like the perverbrial nail in the coffin.
The success of the industrial raids were generally questionable since they failed to stop or even slow down German production. This is borne out by production increasing substantially during extensive bombing raids. Some historians do think that the destruction of the infrastructure was the main reason for the collapse of the German industrial system. Others think that the destruction of the fuel/refinery infrastructure was the main cause. This is an item that's sure to be debated many years from now. Regardless, it's the soldier on the ground that wins wars and the Germans were doomed the moment they invaded Russia.
Quiz Time:
A. The P-51 was designed in 120 days to meet a British proposal for fighter.
B. The German Messerschmitt (yea, I looked up the spelling) jet, the 262, could have been in use in 1943 - sweeping the allies from German skies - except Hitler delayed it's use by insisting it be configured as a bomber.
C. Charles Lindbergh was the first person to fly the Atlantic.
What do the above statements have in common?
I don't think the Germans ever strengthend their planes to survive slicing into a bomber by ramming. Their aircraft structures just weren't designed to take that kind of an impact. What the Germans did do was add additional armor to their planes so the planes and pilots could survive long enough to shoot down a bomber before being shot down themselves. They also had a unit or two dedicated to ramming bombers, much like a Japanese kamakazi. The pilots were either very patriotic or assigned to the units after falling out of favor.
Gibsonjunkie -
By the time the P-51 was operating in large numbers German pilot training and overall experience was in decline. So although it looked like the P-51 was the main cause of the defeat of the German airforce it was more like the perverbrial nail in the coffin.
The success of the industrial raids were generally questionable since they failed to stop or even slow down German production. This is borne out by production increasing substantially during extensive bombing raids. Some historians do think that the destruction of the infrastructure was the main reason for the collapse of the German industrial system. Others think that the destruction of the fuel/refinery infrastructure was the main cause. This is an item that's sure to be debated many years from now. Regardless, it's the soldier on the ground that wins wars and the Germans were doomed the moment they invaded Russia.
Quiz Time:
A. The P-51 was designed in 120 days to meet a British proposal for fighter.
B. The German Messerschmitt (yea, I looked up the spelling) jet, the 262, could have been in use in 1943 - sweeping the allies from German skies - except Hitler delayed it's use by insisting it be configured as a bomber.
C. Charles Lindbergh was the first person to fly the Atlantic.
What do the above statements have in common?
Re: P51 North American Mustang
Originally Posted by Brent
Forgot one,
Stogey, what do you mean by gas hitting $4 a gallon by summer? I'm paying that now!
Stogey, what do you mean by gas hitting $4 a gallon by summer? I'm paying that now!
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not like I was there, but it was printed in Air & Space Magazine, which has a pretty good reputation with facts
Originally Posted by Brent
Maxwell -
I don't think the Germans ever strengthend their planes to survive slicing into a bomber by ramming. Their aircraft structures just weren't designed to take that kind of an impact. What the Germans did do was add additional armor to their planes so the planes and pilots could survive long enough to shoot down a bomber before being shot down themselves. They also had a unit or two dedicated to ramming bombers, much like a Japanese kamakazi. The pilots were either very patriotic or assigned to the units after falling out of favor.
?
I don't think the Germans ever strengthend their planes to survive slicing into a bomber by ramming. Their aircraft structures just weren't designed to take that kind of an impact. What the Germans did do was add additional armor to their planes so the planes and pilots could survive long enough to shoot down a bomber before being shot down themselves. They also had a unit or two dedicated to ramming bombers, much like a Japanese kamakazi. The pilots were either very patriotic or assigned to the units after falling out of favor.
?
Re: P51 North American Mustang
Originally Posted by Maxwell
should get a subsrciption to air and space, I thnk they had an article in there about 6 months ago, describing how Luffwaffe pilots would climb up high, then dive in fast and wack through bombers' fusalage. I think they even had the 109's built special with a reinforced leading edge
This was pretty much the safest way to take out a heavy bomber because they where so well protected with cannons every where. Cant really sneak up from behind and shoot them down now could you. had to be fast and brutal. this is probably why there where so few fighter pilots and hardly any aces left over at the end of ww2, all the crazy pilots didn't live very long
This was pretty much the safest way to take out a heavy bomber because they where so well protected with cannons every where. Cant really sneak up from behind and shoot them down now could you. had to be fast and brutal. this is probably why there where so few fighter pilots and hardly any aces left over at the end of ww2, all the crazy pilots didn't live very long
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Originally Posted by Maxwell
not like I was there, but it was printed in Air & Space Magazine, which has a pretty good reputation with facts