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Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of your car; Oversteer is when you hit with the rear. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, and torque is how far you take the wall with you.


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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-18-2009 , 07:33 PM


Great first event to the year. Overall I'm happy with the XF handling. The gearing coulden't have worked out more perfectly, it was 2nd gear all around. With the T/C set to off (no fuse pulling) it was very un-intrusive (except of the line but if you launched gently it was actually faster) Slalom speed was quick but on the fast entries the car had a tendancy to understeer. The understeer in slow sharp corners is what I'd like to get sorted. The roll looks very rough but I actually like it and was happy with the characteristic of setting the car up for corners. I did feel the ABS kicked in too early and too much though.

P.S. One more thought, at speed and under braking, and in the turns, I was very un-eased and unhappy with the feel of the steering while going over bumps. The bumps felt like they had an effect on the wheels, which just translated into a vague nudge on the steering wheel. Felt like everything in the suspension was loose.





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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-18-2009 , 07:45 PM


Can a moderator please put this in the racing section and take off the first two posts.

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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-18-2009 , 08:13 PM


KitFox,

Absolutely awesome Dude!

Great pictures; how did you do?

However you placed it looked like you had a blast!

Maybe I will have to join you the next time. Will they let me run with a Roadster? Nice job bud.

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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-18-2009 , 09:17 PM


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Can a moderator please put this in the racing section and take off the first two posts.

Done.
Good pics and looks like a good time.
I didn't even see this post til you sent me a PM today.
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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-18-2009 , 10:28 PM


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Great pictures; how did you do?

However you placed it looked like you had a blast!

Maybe I will have to join you the next time. Will they let me run with a Roadster? Nice job bud.


I was abit mid way, I was put in the middle class. I was the only car that was unmodded besides a 911 Carrera 4S. So I figure as the only stock car there (besides my awesome diffuser haha) I was quicker than 300ZX twin turbos most GTIs, Audi A4s, and other FWD VW and Audi cars. This was a fairly open course and not just for Miatas and S2000s as it usually is.

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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-18-2009 , 10:29 PM


Anyone wanna offer any input into my understeer dilemma?Or any other AutoX input?

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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-19-2009 , 12:16 AM


For one thing ya got the wrong tires on that car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And buddy...anytime you want contact me.............................

You can roll my car at one of these events!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just no smoke screen burnouts and my car is yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously get some real rim/tires

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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-20-2009 , 12:22 AM


I'm running UHP All-season tires swapped from the Max Perf summer tires which were getting old. I don't plan on going to R compounds as this is my DD and just I want to know what I can predict handling wise day to day. Thank you for your kind offer though RIOT.

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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-28-2009 , 08:49 PM


Any other insights?

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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-28-2009 , 09:44 PM


I've run 2 solo 1 events and the understeer problem is what slows us down more than any other factor. If I can't choke up enough for dedicated track wheels and tires I'll put a 235 on the front with a spacer. We need more front tire. Next I would think lowering and a limited slip differential. I accelerate faster than most in my SRT6 but they kill me in the turns. Sticky tires, my friend, will make the biggest improvement of all.

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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-30-2009 , 07:51 AM


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Anyone wanna offer any input into my understeer dilemma?Or any other AutoX input?

Those are great pictures. Autocrossing is a lot of fun and looks like you had a blast.

I have some success running my daily driver 2005 Limited in a local MBCA club autocross in DS class. These cars can be competitive. In my club I placed 2nd in DS and 5th overall in 2008. This event is not SCCA level but still competitive. I only lost to instructors that drove a R32, SVT Cobra, Porsche Cayman and a 280 hp Civic Si race car. Most of my events have been on BFG KDWlls. This a fabulous street tire but too hard for autocrossing and will add to the understeer issues. 2009 I will be running dedicated A6 Hoosiers with a 285 on the front! In my last event it really helped the front but with good technigue even street tires can be competitive.

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Default Re: Chicago Area AutoCross 4/18/09 - 04-30-2009 , 03:36 PM


I see the best way is to change tires. I'm not that serious about AutoXing though to be swapping around tires. What about tire pressures in order to set up more grip up front. I ran 34 front and 37 back in order to induce abit of over steer.

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