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Old 03-27-2014, 07:27 PM
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I added it up and want to puke. The Hoosiers are $1450 a set shipped to P.R. Forgestars were $300 each plus shipping. Add extra AMG reps and MT ET Streets and no wonder I'm broke! I'm an addict and I want more! Freaking Ground Control has me in spending withdrawals! My front track tires only last 2 events. The rears can go longer but they get slick and cause me heartache in more ways than one. Anyone want to sponsor me?

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By the way, this is the "Crossfire room" of my "office". My sweetie is wanting parity "rocks". I'm in deep .......

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Old 03-27-2014, 07:32 PM
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If anyone needs (and deserves) a sponsor it would be you. Ground Control would be wise to jump on your bandwagon. Send letters to all those companies you listed here and see what happens. GL
 
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:38 PM
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Les, follow that link i posted for the kooks, they are a great price. I know their no r6 but their sorta close lol.
 
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Old 03-27-2014, 07:49 PM
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I tried the Kooks are they are a waste of money no matter the cost. At least on a car over 3000 lbs. (my race weight is 3300) They are equal to Hoosiers for one day and street tire slow afterwards.

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Old 03-27-2014, 08:23 PM
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I added it up and want to puke. The Hoosiers are $1450 a set shipped to P.R. Forgestars were $300 each plus shipping. Add extra AMG reps and MT ET Streets and no wonder I'm broke! I'm an addict and I want more! Freaking Ground Control has me in spending withdrawals! My front track tires only last 2 events. The rears can go longer but they get slick and cause me heartache in more ways than one. Anyone want to sponsor me?

Les
Time to take up fishing for excitement.
 
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Old 03-27-2014, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by velociabstract
I added it up and want to puke. The Hoosiers are $1450 a set shipped to P.R. Forgestars were $300 each plus shipping. Add extra AMG reps and MT ET Streets and no wonder I'm broke! I'm an addict and I want more! Freaking Ground Control has me in spending withdrawals! My front track tires only last 2 events. The rears can go longer but they get slick and cause me heartache in more ways than one. Anyone want to sponsor me?

Les

If you want to play, you've got to pay.
 
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Originally Posted by onehundred80
Time to take up fishing for excitement.

I can tell you that aint cheap either!
 
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Tommy, any more news on those missing parts? Very very soon means days to me but perhaps it's months to GC. I'm on hold waiting. It makes no sense to keep making changes to my K&W setup when I'm going to swap it out as soon as GC wakes up. Too many trips to Colorado? My sweetie says diamonds are forever while HoHos last 3 races. She's smart! (and right)

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Les, I feel you on the waiting...it sucks! Ive just put it out of mind so I dont dwell on the wait time. I put some laps in this past friday at H2R, I sure think that you are going to be happy. Gets around the track well. Much better now that we have better tire pressure and there isnt a pro driverin the seat driving it like his BMW cup car. Ill spill that video one day....
 

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Les, I feel you on the waiting...it sucks! Ive just put it out of mind so I dont dwell on the wait time. I put some laps in this past friday at H2R, I sure think that you are going to be happy. Gets around the track well. Much better now that we have better tire pressure and there isnt a pro driverin the seat driving it like his BMW cup car. Ill spill that video one day....
Just for clarification, it was not me driving his car
 
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:26 AM
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I think we covered this in the 90's:



Just a little ball busting. But there's always wiggle room in technique and alignment. Keep up the great work!
 
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Just for clarification, it was not me driving his car
I see what you did there....
 
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I think $4500 would look like one half of a Crossfire.
 
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Tommy, any more news on those missing parts? Very very soon means days to me but perhaps it's months to GC. I'm on hold waiting. It makes no sense to keep making changes to my K&W setup when I'm going to swap it out as soon as GC wakes up. Too many trips to Colorado? My sweetie says diamonds are forever while HoHos last 3 races. She's smart! (and right)

Les
What is the benefit to the GC's over the KW's? Given the setup of our suspension and what I know about GC I would imagine you are only changing the sleeves/springs and not the shocks/struts. I guess I am just questioning the benefit of the GC's over that of the KW's. Better spring rates perhaps? I have KW V2's on my SRT-6 and my only bicker is that they don't go low enough for my tastes. The pictures I have seen of the GC's installed on an Crossfire however do not suggest that they will go any lower than that of the KW's. Although I know you're into tracking your car so being unconventionally low is probably not your concern....lol.
 
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What's wrong with the K&W's? The K&W's go lower than is usable but allow too much movement. They work pretty good with street rubber but with track tires they're too soft. Too much brake dive and roll. Because the dive is pronounced I can't lower the front beyond the highest setting (recommended) and my rear settings are higher than recommended too. I still rub in a few places front and rear at speed on the track. Slamming any tire into the inner fender in a corner is equivalent to braking that wheel at the limits of traction. Also, if the car is moving a lot the camber and toe are changing. I find it necessary to make all steering and braking inputs early and still have to wait for the car to stop moving and take a set. Trail braking won't work because it's necessary to wait for the nose of the car to lift before turn in. Why? Because the rear of the car is light and will come around. For serious speed K&W's allow too much body movement. I can't say why GC is better because I still don't have them. I can explain all day what the limits are with the K&W's for track usage and when the driver is getting speed out of his Crossfire. A pic of my car on K&W's as low as possible and still trackable. This picture is was taken last week with my daily rims and tires.

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The pics you saw were at a drivable height....they will set the car much lower if desired.
 
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i feel your pain les. heres what 10,000$ looks like!!
 
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I nominate Steve as having the worst sickness out of all of us. There is apparently no cure other than running out of money.
 
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I am not even going to post photos of my addiction...try building two cars, a bike, and big rig....$$$$$$$$$..... I will never track my cars like Les does, but I do like them to handle well on the street and a casual track day...don't need a lot of suspension for the drag strip....but I do like what GC has done over other suspension set ups I have seen. The roadster will get the GC kit for sure.... Les, I would sponsor you, but what would I get? Your hobby doesn't result in any return for me, other than see you smile... LOL...
Try writing off your racing on your business....advertise what you do on your car...lol. It works for me in trucking....
 


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