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I searched "tire age" and found only three hits.

What brought this to mind was a friend mentioned that their car club when doing track days would not allow tires over five years old so I wanted to investigate. Since most of our cars are low miles for the year tire age could be an issue. Especially if you intend to push the limits of the Crossfire. Here is just one article I found...

The Science of Tire Aging

“The auto-oxidation of rubber has been known for a long time, and for a long time, too, it has been known that it plays an important part in spontaneous deterioration or aging, and it has been the object of numerous studies of much interest.” - Journal article from 1931

There's been quite a bit of controversy over the issue of tire aging lately. Many people would like to see manufacturers and dealers either put expiration dates on their tires or otherwise clearly mark the age of each tire for consumers at the time of purchase.

The issue came to a head earlier this year when Maryland debated a bill to require Maryland tire dealers to give consumers a printed statement on the dangers of tire aging whenever they sell a tire that is more than three years past its manufacture date. There are multiple and complex issues at stake here. Should tires have clearer dating? When is a tire too old to be safe? Should a tire be taken out of service because of age even if it has tread life remaining? If a new tire is stored for a long time should it be sold with a warning label or not sold at all?

The Science of Aging:

“Tires are primarily degrading from the inside-out, due [to] permeation and reaction of the pressurized oxygen within the tire structure, with rates proportional to temperature.”

Summary of NHTSA Tire Aging Test Development Research

Tire aging is basically an issue of oxidation. As rubber is exposed to oxygen it dries out and becomes stiffer, leading to cracking. The issue is primarily about how the inner, “wedge” layers of rubber oxidize. The stiffening and cracking of aged rubber can lead to the inner layers of the tire delaminating from the steel belts rather than flexing with the steel as the tire rolls under weight.

There are essentially four major factors that determine how fast a tire will age:

The Inner Liner. The inner liner of any tire is a specialized butyl rubber compound that is designed to be impermeable to air so as to keep the air inside the tire where it belongs. No inner liner is completely impermeable, so some air will always leak slowly through the liner due to osmosis. The quality of the inner liner determines just how much air leaks through, and therefore how fast the inner structure of the tire is exposed to oxygen.
Oxygen Concentration. It's pretty easy to see that oxidation rates will increase when oxygen concentration is higher. What this means is that a tire that is mounted and filled with compressed air will age much faster than a tire that is simply being stored, because the air pressure is orders of magnitude higher in a filled tire, and more oxygen will permeate through the liner.
Heat. Oxidation of rubber occurs much faster under high heat than low heat. In essence, heat increases both the permeability and reactivity of oxygen, making it both easier for oxygen to get through the inner liner and easier for it to react with the rubber inside the tire.
Usage. When a tire is driven, the pressure and flexing motion circulate the internal oils through the rubber. These oils lubricate the internal rubber and keep it from drying and stiffening. So tires that are used less are often more vulnerable to aging effects.
The History of the Science:

In 1989, ADAC, Germany’s consumer advocacy group concluded: “Even tires that are just six years old – though they appear to be brand new – can present a safety risk. Tire experts even say that if they are not used, indeed, tires age more quickly.”

In 1990, vehicle manufacturers including BMW, Audi, Volkswagen, Toyota, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, and GM Europe, among others, included in the owner's manual warnings that tires older than six years should only be used in an emergency and replaced as soon as possible.

The British Rubber Manufacturer's Association noted that “BRMA members strongly recommend that unused tyres should not be put into service if they are over 6 years old and that all tyres should be replaced 10 years from the date of their manufacture.”

In 2005, Ford, DaimlerChrysler and Bridgestone/Firestone added warnings that tires should be inspected at 5 years and replaced after 10. Michelin and Continental issued similar bulletins in 2006. Hankook did so in 2009.

In 2007, NHTSA's Research Report to Congress on Tire Aging presented clear evidence of both tire aging failures and the outsized effect of sustained heat on the aging mechanism.

“This trend was observed in NHTSA’s analysis of data provided by a large insurance company... It reported that 27 percent of its policy holders are from Texas, California, Louisiana, Florida, and Arizona, but 77 percent of the tire claims came from these states and 84 percent of these were for tires over 6 years old. While tire insurance claims are not necessarily an absolute measure of the failures due to aging, [they are] an indication that a large number of tire failures are likely occurring because of the affect of sustained high temperature on tires.”

NHTSA Research Report to Congress on Tire Aging.

When NHTSA conducted further testing in Arizona, they found not only that tires did show an increasing failure rate with age, especially at around 6 years, they also found that the rate of aging was only slightly less for spare tires..

“DOE analysis confirms that mileage was a relatively unimportant factor in [failures due to] aging compared to time. Thus time, not mileage, is the correct metric for tire aging... Besides variations from manufacturer to manufacturer, tire size, or more specifically, tire aspect ratio seems to effect the tire aging rate. Tires with higher aspect ratios age faster than tires with lower aspect ratios.”

Rubber Oxidation And Tire Aging - A Review.

“...the results support the hypothesis that spare tires could degrade while stored on the vehicle. This is a particular concern when coupled with the inflation pressures of full-size spare tires at retrieval. Over 30% of the passenger and light truck tires at the spare tire location had inflation pressures below the T&RA Load Table minimums. A recent study by the agency projected that more than 50% of passenger vehicles will still be on the road in the U.S. After 13 years of service, and more than 10% will still be on the road after 19 years. For light tucks, those figures go to 14 and 27 years respectively. Since few consumers replace their full-size spare tires when replacing on-road sets of tires, full-size spare tires have the potential for very long service lives. This elicits the logical concern that older full-size spare tires with possible degradations in capability may see emergency use while significantly underinflated.”

NHTSA Tire Aging Test Development Project: Phase 1

Higher speed rated tires degraded less – even on spare tires

“Results indicated a strong correlation to the speed rating of the tire, with the higher speed rated tires losing the least capability with increasing age and mileage.”

NHTSA Tire Aging Test Development Project: Phase 1

Conclusions:

So after wrapping my brain around all this, here are my opinions on the matter:

If you've had tires on the car for five years, you should be checking them for cracking along the sidewall or inside the tread grooves, which would indicate aging problems. If you've had tires on the car for six years, they should be replaced. If you live in Phoenix, you should be checking both your tires and your sanity at four years max.
Spare tires should be checked and replaced on the same schedule. You should also check before you use one. Because spares are not used often, if at all, the oils in the tire do not circulate under pressure and because trunks can get very hot, spare tires can be particularly vulnerable to aging effects.
Tires may age somewhat in storage, but they don't really start to age until they are mounted and filled with air. Even if you were buy a new tire that's already three years old, I would conservatively count those years as half years and say the tire has 4.5 years left. It would have to be up to you whether you think that you'll get that many years out of the tread. However, storage under very hot conditions may somewhat negate this effect.
Right now, to find out when the tire was made, you'll have to decode the Tire Identification Number, or TIN. I'm very much in favor of requiring a clearly readable date of manufacture to be put on both sidewalls.
Lower aspect ratios and higher speed ratings tend to correlate with longer life. This is probably due to less surface area in the air chamber and better construction, especially better inner liners.


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This was interesting...

"Higher speed rated tires degraded less – even on spare tires “Results indicated a strong correlation to the speed rating of the tire, with the higher speed rated tires losing the least capability with increasing age and mileage.”
 
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Interesting post.

I recently replaced my tires that were 10 years, old due to poor traction and concerns with age related failure potential.
 
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Most tire shops that I have worked at or dealt with will recommend any tires older than 5 years to be replaced. Part of that being marketing but mostly safety.
 
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I have bought old tires from a Goodyear dealer in Colorado for years. He keeps the tires in cold storage. They are "new" old tires. I have ran just like I would any other tire. They are summer compound tires. Half the price of new. And in fact, the new tires I just put on the MB, were 3 yrs old. So, what is new? I have 8 yr old new tires on the XF's and no real signs of wear issues or cracking. You just need to keep them air'd up and check for cracks and cuts from time to time... Tires are a maintenance item...
 
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No mention of the use of nitrogen?
 
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"Lower aspect ratios and higher speed ratings tend to correlate with longer life. This is probably due to less surface area in the air chamber and better construction, especially better inner liners." so a Crossie wins on both accounts.

OTOH trailer tires are usually 70 or 75 aspect ratio and LRD so 65 psi inflation, parked a lot, and only rated for 65 mph (ST) so the worst for aging ?

ps took off some 1993 coded tires in 255x70x15 from the Judge and showed no signs of aging at all

pps can tell a lot about how hard a tire is from the squeal when spinning, the harder the tire, the higher pitched the squeal.
 

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My SRT is 10 years old, 14k original tires. I have no intention of ever replacing them. In 45 years of driving I've never had a tire failure due to age. I've bought junk yard replacement s that are who knows how old. I don't buy into this whole idea of time dating tires. Maybe for racing purposes, but not for regular commuting. Has anyone ever seen a accident report that state s the reason was aged tires?
 
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My SRT is 10 years old, 14k original tires. I have no intention of ever replacing them. In 45 years of driving I've never had a tire failure due to age. I've bought junk yard replacement s that are who knows how old. I don't buy into this whole idea of time dating tires. Maybe for racing purposes, but not for regular commuting. Has anyone ever seen a accident report that state s the reason was aged tires?
What's your ideas on the new fangled idea that the world is not flat?
 
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Originally Posted by triplmmm
My SRT is 10 years old, 14k original tires. I have no intention of ever replacing them. In 45 years of driving I've never had a tire failure due to age. I've bought junk yard replacement s that are who knows how old. I don't buy into this whole idea of time dating tires. Maybe for racing purposes, but not for regular commuting. Has anyone ever seen a accident report that state s the reason was aged tires?
These were 10 year old tires with 17K on them. I didn't like the looks of all the cracks at the edge of the sidewall/start of the tread. Even partway down the sidewall you can see cracks. I have heard of guys who participate in "track days" that the organizer rules say no tires older then 5 years. If driving a Crossfire near what it is capable of tires that don't look like this are needed.



 
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Quote from Hagerty's site...

There are no hard and fast “expiration dates” on tires, but because rubber begins to crack and deteriorate over time, most experts suggest that eight years is the maximum safe life expectancy of a tire. If you don’t drive your classic at all and it just sits on display, you can get away with keeping the original tires as they’ll hold air. But if you drive the car at all, you need to know how old the tires are. The U.S Department of Transportation (DOT) requires that all tires manufactured since 2000 have serial numbers, and those numbers easily identify their age. Using the last four digits, the first two numbers will reveal the week and last two the year. For example, a serial number ending in 4905 tells you the tires were made during the 49th week of 2005. If there are no recognizable serial numbers, you already have your answer – the tires were made prior to 2000 and need to be replaced.
 
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Actually DOT has required the mfg date since at least the '80s but were originally three digits then in the 90's added a triangle. Since 2000 they have been 4 digits.

I had a set on the Judge from 1993 that looked perfect in and out when replaced just a few years ago but then was always garaged.

Have BFGs on it now, are about the only halfway decent tires I could find in big 15" sizes.

Note: the DOT codes with the date on the end may only be on one side of the tire. However other than some specialty tires if sold in the US for highway use, the code must be there.
 
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Living in what use to be known as the "Rubber Capital of the World" all my life, I worked at that "Halfway decent tire company," (B.F. Goodrich) for about 14 years. I installed the 1st. generation Goodrich Radial TA's on my AMX in 1971, and kept them on my car for the next 27 years and 35K miles. I replaced them with the metric TA's that are currently on it before I took the car to Florida for a car show in 1998.
Now I don't claim to have "perfect pitch" so I can't say the sound a squealing tire makes as it ages, changes the older it gets. But it does harden, and that in turn noticeably decreases traction, which is a very good reason to get new tires.
I absolutely do not endorse keeping tires on your car as long as I have in the past, but IMO, changing a perfectly decent looking low mileage tire every 5 years is being premature. I'm certainly no expert, so use your best judgement, and inspect them on a regular basis.
 
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
Living in what use to be known as the "Rubber Capital of the World" all my life, I worked at that "Halfway decent tire company," (B.F. Goodrich) for about 14 years. I installed the 1st. generation Goodrich Radial TA's on my AMX in 1971, and kept them on my car for the next 27 years and 35K miles. I replaced them with the metric TA's that are currently on it before I took the car to Florida for a car show in 1998.
Now I don't claim to have "perfect pitch" so I can't say the sound a squealing tire makes as it ages, changes the older it gets. But it does harden, and that in turn noticeably decreases traction, which is a very good reason to get new tires.
I absolutely do not endorse keeping tires on your car as long as I have in the past, but IMO, changing a perfectly decent looking low mileage tire every 5 years is being premature. I'm certainly no expert, so use your best judgement, and inspect them on a regular basis.
So was everyone in the "Rubber Capital of the World' known as a d!ck?
 
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So was everyone in the "Rubber Capital of the World' known as a d!ck?
No, just the guys named Richard.
 
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Exposure is the key. My RV's tires needed replaced in 5 yrs or so from cracking. So, again, it is a maintenance item and should be checked like anything else. As for the racing community. It is liability they are worried about. I recently stopped belonging to SCCA. I am considering NHRA as well, and just play at outlaw tracks. I know their rules are for safety, and I can respect that, but it is also expensive. I wouldn't run a set of tires or equipment that wasn't safe. I want to live just like the other guy. But throwing away a perfect set of tires over a date on them, is just wrong. Or a helmet for that matter. This year I will have to replace tires and my helmet to run. Not worth it to me anymore.
 
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Originally Posted by +fireamx
Living in what use to be known as the "Rubber Capital of the World" all my life, I worked at that "Halfway decent tire company," (B.F. Goodrich) for about 14 years. I installed the 1st. generation Goodrich Radial TA's on my AMX in 1971, and kept them on my car for the next 27 years and 35K miles. I replaced them with the metric TA's that are currently on it before I took the car to Florida for a car show in 1998.
Now I don't claim to have "perfect pitch" so I can't say the sound a squealing tire makes as it ages, changes the older it gets. But it does harden, and that in turn noticeably decreases traction, which is a very good reason to get new tires.
I absolutely do not endorse keeping tires on your car as long as I have in the past, but IMO, changing a perfectly decent looking low mileage tire every 5 years is being premature. I'm certainly no expert, so use your best judgement, and inspect them on a regular basis.
Well said. Wow, 27 years!!!! I wish you had pictures of them after 27 years. What did they look like on the inside after they were dismounted?

Mine has the originals on the front.
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37th week of 2004. 34k miles on them. Hold air fine, but as you can see they are cracking. They are performance tires (Michelin Pilot Sports) with higher speed rating, so I am sure that helps. I am going to replace them soon.
 
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OK, just for fun here are two sidewalls. One is from the 20th week of 2000, and the other from the 23rd week of 1987 (note: it's not on a car, just wanted the wheel and have not dismounted. (If it were from the 90s there would be a triangle).

Note the '87 is just starting to haze a bit on the sidewall.
 
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Originally Posted by triplmmm
My SRT is 10 years old, 14k original tires. I have no intention of ever replacing them. In 45 years of driving I've never had a tire failure due to age. I've bought junk yard replacement s that are who knows how old. I don't buy into this whole idea of time dating tires. Maybe for racing purposes, but not for regular commuting. Has anyone ever seen a accident report that state s the reason was aged tires?
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Dan Zielinski, senior vice president-public affairs for the Rubber Manufacturers Association (RMA) cited the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that nearly 11,000 highway crashes and nearly 200 highway deaths annually are attributable to tires, then they recommended several tire-related safety websites, including the RMA's “Be Tire Smart—Play Your P.A.R.T.”
 


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