like i said this is what i have dealt with in the past and being as the numbers are white when the lights are off it should be one of the 2 with white leds behind... i want to redo mine as well with white gauges and black numbers that light up red but i just haven't had time to deal with it lately with the whole grille thing... one project at a time ya know... maybe i'll get even more fed up with the g.d. grille as i now refer to it and just do that so i can accomplish something for once lol! of course that could turn into a nightmare as well who knows lmfao!