After I left IBM and several other mil contractors, I went into HVAC and started a company. After doing two jobs at once most of the time, I retired after 38 years of running the business. Know some about ac and freon and stuff.

Autos use r123a mostly in newer cars! Oldies use r12 and I still have a can of it for those outliers that need it.

R134A sells for about 6 - 7$$per pound on the street. Change is coming remember 6 - 7$$

Enter R 1234YF the new auto freon...............guess the price on the street????????????

100$$ a POUND COST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats right boys n girls, the new freon is 100$ and the recovery machine is about $2600.

Iam going to buy more R134A for the future. Can you imagine what the repair shops are charging for a refill, and or service??? Damn if I use it, if need be Ill replace the freon R134a.

Years ago I bought 3 skids of R22 ( 3600# ) for my IRA fund. It was close to 1$ A POUND. Residential units used to use it and the street price is $25 a pound now, I sold my stash for less than 25 but increased in value a GOODLY amount.

R 12 was cheap, then it was discontinued and went wild, I missed that one. 100 watt light bulbs got phased out and so did full flushing toilets driving many plumbers to go to canada to get the old goodies.

Well R134A will be going away over time, time to get some and save it for your car. You dont wanna upgrade to R1234YF.

Did I mention that R1234YF is flammable, what is worst???????? How about this -when it burns it forms HF gas. Hydrogen flouride you remember it is what they used to ETCH the glass in those 100 watt light bulbs.........

Thats why they added YF to the designation to identify that YOUR _ _ _ _ _ _ !!

Have a nice day and thank you from the EPA.

WDY

 

Thanks for the tip, Woody! I missed the opportunity to buy R12 before the phase out, but I'd be a fool if I missed this second chance!
/Rich

 

thanks woody, I read a paper on this about a month ago,,,it did not register ,, now that i read it a second time it registered, I have about 6 cans of r12 somewhere in my garage. and 4 cans of 134.
I think somewhere around 2020 the 123 will be be in all new cars. so again thanks for the reminder. walmart has 134 @ $4.something a can. maybe I can buy 5 cans each week or so for a year.
or better than that my friend has a in with a friend and for $125. i can get a 30lb tank. and he has the recovery system ,I use his and just pay him ($4.per lb over my old stuff for the Freon i use, but soon he will have the 123 at 100 per lb. jim

 

Yankee plumbers GO HOME. We like our full flushes.
When DT hears about this he’ll slap a tariff on toilet valves coming in from Canada as well and that will stop this practice.
I like a good flush in poker as well.

 

I think you can still buy R12 in Mexico. I used to buy it there for my old CJ but that was 3 years ago.

 

Does anyone know the shelf life on the R134A freon? I currently have three vehicles that use it. Although I am not to worried about it for the roadster, but I should have some on hand for my other vehicles.

 

No known shelf life if it does not leak out. My can of R134A and R12 have brass caps screwed on to insure the 30# cans dont have a chance to weep out. EnjoyWOODY