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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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Is there any way to keep the wing from coming up? No matter how fast you are going?
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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I don't think that you really want to do that. The spoiler is functional, and improves stability at speed - that is it is a safety feature. You could disconect power to the motor that lifts the spoiler, but you will sacrifice safety; and, unless I'm mistaken, the car will start warning you that the spoiler is not deployed since you are exposing yourself to harm by exceding speed without it up.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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You can do it, but I would listen and take the first reply to your question serious. James
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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I believe +fireamx has a switch for his that allows him to put it up or down at his will.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 07:51 AM
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Take a sledge hammer to it. Just rap it good a couple of times. That outta keep it down.

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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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I definitely wouldn't advise it. Who doesn't approve of downforce?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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RPM I was talking to Mike about this yesterday and he said you can put it down manually when it comes up but he said at around 90 there is a warning beeper. I like mine operating just the way it came, at around 63 mph it goes up. crossfire08 I wouldn't mess with it.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by crossfire08
Is there any way to keep the wing from coming up? No matter how fast you are going?
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As a disclaimer, I'd have to say for liability reasons don't do it.
But here's an old thread about it.

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...nt-75-mph.html
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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I wonder if there is less of a need for the spoiler on a roadster with the top down...the airflow has to be different than on a coupe - less lift generated by the vehicle. Just wondering - I like the automatic operation, myself.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by OKC-XFR
I wonder if there is less of a need for the spoiler on a roadster with the top down...the airflow has to be different than on a coupe - less lift generated by the vehicle. Just wondering - I like the automatic operation, myself.
Great question!
Anybody got an old wind tunnel laying around? lol.
Seriously, it would be interesting to find out.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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Bad idea......your car is shaped just like the wing of an aircraft & will generate lift - even more the faster you travel.
In other words, the tires of your car begin to literally lift off of the ground and the loss of traction will make your car unstable. Think of it as driving over ice: no traction means no control. Anytime your tires aren't contacting pavement you're toast.
Spoiler up=good thing!
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurts
Bad idea......your car is shaped just like the wing of an aircraft & will generate lift - even more the faster you travel.
In other words, the tires of your car begin to literally lift off of the ground and the loss of traction will make your car unstable. Think of it as driving over ice: no traction means no control. Anytime your tires aren't contacting pavement you're toast.
Spoiler up=good thing!
Very true for a coupe - but a roadster with the top down has a much different shape. Also, it seems that the windshield with the open cockpit would disturb the airflow sufficiently (in the manner that the spoiler does) to reduce lift - I've even got a wind diffuser, so the airflow over the top of my car has to be a real mess...I think you need laminar airflow to create lift, but I'm not an aeronautical engineer.

I'm curious because I remember that +fireamx did a test and found that his highway gas mileage improved with the wing down by over 2 mpg - I would be tickled to get over 30 mpg with my car!
 
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OKC-XFR
Very true for a coupe - but a roadster with the top down has a much different shape. Also, it seems that the windshield with the open cockpit would disturb the airflow sufficiently (in the manner that the spoiler does) to reduce lift - I've even got a wind diffuser, so the airflow over the top of my car has to be a real mess...I think you need laminar airflow to create lift, but I'm not an aeronautical engineer.

I'm curious because I remember that +fireamx did a test and found that his highway gas mileage improved with the wing down by over 2 mpg - I would be tickled to get over 30 mpg with my car!
Hi, OKC!!

Oh, I wasn't responding to your post - indeed, I would be curious to see just how a Roadster's airflow dynamic would change with the top down- I was just putting my $.02 worth in about the whole spoiler-down-permanently idea!
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OKC-XFR
I'm curious because I remember that +fireamx did a test and found that his highway gas mileage improved with the wing down by over 2 mpg - I would be tickled to get over 30 mpg with my car!
I really do attribute much of my usual "better than average" mileage to driving mostly around 70 mph, having a 6 spd. and keeping my wing in the down position. I more often than not have my drivers side window down, and the AC off as well, and hardly ever drive in the lower gears unless I'm running below 35 mph.
Since I seldom drive much over 70 or 75 mph. I really don't think the lack of down force (or spoiling effect) caused by a non-deloyed rear wing puts me into any negligible danger as long as I'm on a smooth dry highway. If I'm ever caught in a rain storm, I always put it up while travelling at highway speeds.
I'm probably one of only handful of Crossfire drivers who have actually driven their cars over 100 mph with the wing down (just last Friday on the PA Turn Pike as a matter of fact) and I honestly didn't feel any difference in stability when I raised the wing (to silence the warning chimes).
I don't recommend driving like that, but sometimes it becomes necessary just to not be left behind while driving in formation.
I can promis you though, if you ever get into any sort of accident with your wing down when it should have been deployed "by-the-book", YOU will be held accountable whether it had anything to do with causing the accident or not.
 

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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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The wing goes down???

Can't figure it out. Both of mine stay up all of the time.

Am I doing something wrong???
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by tighed1
The wing goes down???

Can't figure it out. Both of mine stay up all of the time.

Am I doing something wrong???
LOL - Good one!
 
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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Default Re: The wing?

Originally Posted by tighed1
The wing goes down???

Can't figure it out. Both of mine stay up all of the time.

Am I doing something wrong???
Hey tighed.....we can fix that !!! One or both cars ???
 
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