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Six (6) Speed Manual ~ Pops out of Reverse...???

Old Nov 8, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Default Six (6) Speed Manual ~ Pops Out of Reverse...???

This is not a show stopper, but I notice that when I put my manual 6 speed into Reverse, it will sometimes pop out and not stay in gear, unless I hold it there.

Or it will stay in place, but when I ease up on the clutch, I can hear that telltale gear noise, indicating it is not fully engaged. If I then apply some slight pressure, and hold it there, it works fine.

I was wondering if there was a linkage adjustment or something else that might be in play here.

Forward gears 1 thru 6 work just as advertised.

Again, it's not a show stopper, but I only own my XFire (2) weeks, with a Chrysler Bumper-to-Bumper, and I'm starting to get really attached to this puppy.

And YES, my **** factor is on the rise...lol...

Thoughts/Comments appreciated...

Thanx...
 

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Six (6) Speed Manual ~ Pops out of Reverse...???

I believe there was a TSB for this problem, it was happening in 1st. gear on some cars. But the cause may be same. This was on the older models.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:03 PM
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fireamx, I think I found the TSB you referenced, Thanx.

I don't think it's relevant to my situation, or better stated, I'm not 100 % sure this is the case.

TSB 21-001-05, Dated Jan 6th, 2005, for Model Years 2004-2005, Manual Shift:

Symptom: Vehicle operator may have difficulty shifting from neutral to first or reverse, or may hear a grind sound when shifting from first to second.

The Fix: Drop the tranny, apply a thin coat of Mopar Anti-Sieze compound to the splines of the input shaft, and re-assemble.

My situation doe not exactly match the symptoms as stated, no issues ever with neutral to First, or First to Second. And going from Neutral to Reverse does not grind with the Clutch fully depressed.

It's that when in Reverse with the clutch fully depressed, it looks and feels like it is good to go, but sometimes upon easing up the clutch, I'll get that telltale grind, but if I then apply a slight pressure to the Shifter, she works just fine.

It kinda feels like the reverse shifter throw comes up a little short, and a little pressure in that direction makes things right. Which is why I wondering if there was some kind of adjustment on the throw that might be an easy fix.

Dropping the tranny to apply some jizzim, would ruin my day, and is not my idea of a fun project.

But if that was the final solution, it is under warranty, but I'd hate to go that route unless I had no other options...(or got to the point where Reverse became inoperable)...

Thanx...
 

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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Default Re: Six (6) Speed Manual ~ Pops out of Reverse...???

Originally Posted by Kodebuster
fireamx, I think I found the TSB you referenced, Thanx.

I don't think it's relevant to my situation, or better stated, I'm not 100 % sure this is the case.

TSB 21-001-05, Dated Jan 6th, 2005, for Model Years 2004-2005, Manual Shift:

Symptom: Vehicle operator may have difficulty shifting from neutral to first or reverse, or may hear a grind sound when shifting from first to second.

The Fix: Drop the tranny, apply a thing coat of Mopar Anti-Sieze compound to the splines of the input shaft, and re-assemble.

My situation doe not exactly match the symptoms as stated, no issues ever with neutral to First, or First to Second. And going from Neutral to Reverse does not grind with the Clutch fully depressed.

It's that when in Reverse with the clutch fully depressed, it looks and feels like is good to go, but sometimes upon easing up the clutch, I'll get that telltale grind, but if I then apply a slight pressure to the Shifter, she works just fine.

It kinda feels like the reverse shifter throw comes up a little short, and a little pressure in that directions makes things right. Which is why I wondering if there was some kind of adjustment on the throw that might be an easy fix.

Dropping the tranny to apply some jizzim, would ruin my day, and is not my idea of a fun project.

But if that was the final solution, it is under warranty, but I'd hate to go that route unless I had no other options...(or got to the point where Reverse became inoperable)...

Thanx...
Funny that you dug that up. Lately, I've been having (on occasion) a ridiculous amount of difficulty shifting into 2nd. 2nd was always a rough gear, but lately it can take a few seconds to get the gearbox to let me put it in 2nd, and even then sometimes I feel a little grinding being transmitted into the shifter. It's only second, and it doesn't not work all the time, but especially now that it's been getting colder, it's getting harder to shift into second.

I wonder if my car could possibly fall under this TSB. It's not an '05 or older, but maybe I got one of the old transmissions laying around?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Six (6) Speed Manual ~ Pops out of Reverse...???

No, I thought there was another TSB that addressed the issue of "Popping out of gear". I could be wrong.....it's happened before.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 10:25 PM
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Default Re: Six (6) Speed Manual ~ Pops out of Reverse...???

fireamx, you are right (again) on a second tranny TSB.

This one dated Feb 5th, 2005, for 2004-2005 Models, and specific to tranny S/N's of 1-692-154 thru 1-788-079.

Operator may experience disengagement from First gear during normal acceleration. The fix was to replace the first gear syncro, input shaft seal, and retaining bolt access plug.

This was not relevant to what I'm experiencing, so I didn't reference it in my other reply...

Thanx again...
 
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