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themush1326 12-30-2011 04:45 PM

Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
Was driving along and my car just died, had it towed to a shop and they said Crankshaft senor failure.

Waited about 1hr and it started up

Any idea on replacement cost for this, NYC prices if anyone knows that.

thanks

themush

Valk 12-30-2011 05:29 PM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
Lots of discussion on this subject.
Several manufacturers out there to provide this part for our cars.

This might be the one to go with opposed to many others available on ebay.
This is a reputable member here with mechanical experience with the Crossfire

A better crank position sensor CPS

themush1326 12-30-2011 06:41 PM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
What about labor, whats reasonable?

Valk 12-30-2011 06:53 PM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 

Originally Posted by themush1326
What about labor, whats reasonable?

Should only take a good mechanic about 15 minutes to replace it.
Probably will cost you a minimum of 1 hour labor at most shops though.

themush1326 12-31-2011 09:28 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 

Originally Posted by VALKRYDERGUY
Should only take a good mechanic about 15 minutes to replace it.
Probably will cost you a minimum of 1 hour labor at most shops though.


The shop is suggesting that both the crankshaft and crankshaft sensors should be
replaced at the same time

Does that sound legit?

And on the more general topic of breakdowns, I dont think I've seen a car die like that
in a very long time is this something specific to the design of the car?

MikeR 12-31-2011 10:12 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
There is no real need to replace both sensors unless you are getting DTC codes for both...unlikely... replace the CPS and all should be fine again.

Many cars now have crankshaft and camshaft sensors used to monitor the engine. If one of these goes bad the car will pretty much shut down to prevent damage....or not start up :( I had the no start failure on my SRT6 and my Dodge Intrepid....:mad:

onehundred80 12-31-2011 10:36 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 

Originally Posted by themush1326
The shop is suggesting that both the crankshaft and crankshaft sensors should be
replaced at the same time

Does that sound legit?

And on the more general topic of breakdowns, I dont think I've seen a car die like that
in a very long time is this something specific to the design of the car?

We conclude that you mean camshaft and crankshaft sensors, correct?

Why change a perfectly good one, there is a chance that any new sensor will fail sooner than the one that has proved itself over many miles.

themush1326 12-31-2011 02:16 PM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 

Originally Posted by onehundred80
We conclude that you mean camshaft and crankshaft sensors, correct?

Why change a perfectly good one, there is a chance that any new sensor will fail sooner than the one that has proved itself over many miles.

thanks

Correct, I mean crank and cam.

Can you explain why a new might fail sooner?
What is the cause of these failures, its a year/mileage range?

From the many threads here its seems this is normal and not indicitive of a bigger issues.
It really spooked me never been stranded before in 20+ years of driving(other then a clutch issue 20 years ago).

I am looking forward to many years no car payment driving, as I like the car and it only has 35K.

Goldwing 12-31-2011 02:29 PM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
It seems to be a common problem with over-engineered German cars. The dang things have too many sensors and for some reason (wear, durability) they fail before the part that they are supposed to protect. Just replace the sensor in question. I have 38k on my roadster and never had the problem. I also own a couple Audis and they are also known for sensors to fail, although I had no issues until the cats went on my 2.7T at 197k. I am replacing the O2 sensors along with the cats since they tell me O2 sensors are engineered for about 100k miles.

themush1326 12-31-2011 02:34 PM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
oh one other thing, my car die and then started backup after an hour or so.
Does this point to the sensors or the RCM as I have read in some threads.

Uncle_Al 12-31-2011 06:37 PM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
Just be glad that your sensor did not fail 10 hours from home as mine did. Don't be surprised to find that it will take several days for your garage to get you a new one. The symptoms that you are describing are classic for this failure. Let it sit for an hour and you might get another 30 minutes down the road. But the time to failure will get shorter until it goes completely stupid. I just replaced the CPS and not the Cam sensor. Things have been fine since.

There are those that will tell you to put together a small stash of parts if you intend to get far from home. On all of those lists you will find a CPS.

Good Luck.

MikeR 12-31-2011 07:14 PM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
If it turns over and fails to start, DTC P0335..... it is the crank sensor(it could be the cam sensor, but the DTC will tell you which one.)

If it doesn't turn over and no start (DUH!).... it is likely the RCM issue....

onehundred80 12-31-2011 10:02 PM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 

Originally Posted by themush1326
thanks

Correct, I mean crank and cam.

Can you explain why a new might fail sooner?
What is the cause of these failures, its a year/mileage range?

From the many threads here its seems this is normal and not indicitive of a bigger issues.
It really spooked me never been stranded before in 20+ years of driving(other then a clutch issue 20 years ago).

I am looking forward to many years no car payment driving, as I like the car and it only has 35K.

Some of the cheap ones never worked straight out of the box.

Like light bulbs, some electronic parts only last a few hours. Not saying a new one will fail, but why not keep the spare in the car just in case it dies or if you want, put the new one in and keep the old one as a spare.

My motto is why change it if it 'ain't broken.

themush1326 01-03-2012 11:36 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure(now ECU Failure)
 
Would the sensors be covered under power train? There are a lot of replacement threads on here but it seems most paid out of pocket
Just heard from mechanic, the problem is now traced to the ECU, they just let me know
its should be covered under 8yr/80k mi with Chrysler.

Has anyone had their ECU replaced under the emissons warranty after the bumper to bumper warranty expired.

VaneVane 02-23-2013 12:52 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
The same problem here. With the towing, the replacement part and labor, I paid 500$ at a mechanic in Ridgewood queens.

Afterguard 02-23-2013 09:32 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 

Originally Posted by themush1326 (Post 645114)
Was driving along and my car just died, had it towed to a shop and they said Crankshaft senor failure.

Waited about 1hr and it started up

Any idea on replacement cost for this, NYC prices if anyone knows that.

thanks

themush

The CPS on mine died for good at about 60K miles. My dealer diagnosed it correctly and offered to fix it for just $800. Fortunately this forum had already alerted me to the fact that a new Bosch CPS can be found for <$100 and it takes about 30 mins to install it if you're so inclined. If not, buy the CPS and pay the dealer an hour of labor. BTW, RockAuto and AutohausAZ are good online sources for CPSs. (not a paid spokesperson). :D

pizzaguy 02-23-2013 09:51 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
YUP, get ya a Bosch CPS at AutoHaus and keep it in the trunk, I've been carrying one for over a year and I have 86,000 on mine. Haven't needed it yet, but someday...


And I think the PTCM/ECM IS covered under the emissions warranty - but at some dealerships, ya gotta fight them to get them to cover it.

oledoc2u 02-23-2013 10:54 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
Don't let a dealer diagnose anything....come here 1st.... YOU DONT need a new ECU.... Damn dealers ought to be hanged...

onehundred80 02-23-2013 11:13 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 

Originally Posted by oledoc2u (Post 725875)
Don't let a dealer diagnose anything....come here 1st.... YOU DONT need a new ECU.... Damn dealers ought to be hanged...

The ecu post was over a year ago. I think he may have sold the car.

oledoc2u 02-23-2013 11:16 AM

Re: Crankshaft Sensor Failure
 
Man I need to look at dates....rookie......lol....thanks, Dave.... Dealers fire me up,....:confused:
yep, went back and looked...2011, not 12....need to clean the glasses...


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