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treyleblanc 11-10-2013 10:36 PM

Ignition Key Will not turn?? 2005 Coupe
 
Key will not turn in ignition, battery died and I replaced worked fine yesterday. Got in car today and key will not work,

Tried locking and unlocking doors, also tried turning anti towing on and off. Even disconnected battery and reconnected (this sounded alarm)

Again tried locking and unlocking, nothing works. Any ideas.

SRQfun 11-10-2013 11:02 PM

Re: Ignition Key Will not turn?? 2005 Coupe
 
Sounds like the "Sticky Key Fix" is required.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...n-key-fix.html

gguillot 11-11-2013 12:16 AM

Re: Ignition Key Will not turn?? 2005 Coupe
 
If the key will physically not turn, then it is probably the sticky key issue. Try to get the key working by moving the steering wheel, especially if the wheels are turned far in one direction - move the wheel to take the "pressure" off the key lock. The sticky key fi is much easier if the key is still working.

cg80 11-11-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gguillot (Post 766369)
If the key will physically not turn, then it is probably the sticky key issue. Try to get the key working by moving the steering wheel, especially if the wheels are turned far in one direction - move the wheel to take the "pressure" off the key lock. The sticky key fi is much easier if the key is still working.

gguillot: Had the same problem...$350 to fix...took a new switch from Germany installed by the local dealer. Carl

pizzaguy 11-11-2013 08:06 PM

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See post 2 !


Carl, if you got that fixed for $350 you better tell us the dealer - cause we all are going there. The fix takes 1 to 1 1/2 hours, so labor alone is $150 or so. If they only charged $200 for the part, you have a GEM of a dealer there. Typical charge to replace the key assembly with parts and labor is usually some $500 to $900.

That is why *someone* took the assembly apart and figured out what was really going on. The fix is simple, requires no parts and takes 1 to 1 1/2 hours - same as dealer's replacement of the assembly.

TAKE NOTE: The new part they put in, apparently, does not have the two parts in it we take out with the mod. So the 'factory' has figured out the problem and, in effect, does the same 'mod' as we do, only with new parts. I did the mod on my car when it locked up three years ago - 52000 miles later - never a problem again.

cg80 11-11-2013 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pizzaguy (Post 766496)
See post 2 !


Carl, if you got that fixed for $350 you better tell us the dealer - cause we all are going there. The fix takes 1 to 1 1/2 hours, so labor alone is $150 or so. If they only charged $200 for the part, you have a GEM of a dealer there. Typical charge to replace the key assembly with parts and labor is usually some $500 to $900.

That is why *someone* took the assembly apart and figured out what was really going on. The fix is simple, requires no parts and takes 1 to 1 1/2 hours - same as dealer's replacement of the assembly.

TAKE NOTE: The new part they put in, apparently, does not have the two parts in it we take out with the mod. So the 'factory' has figured out the problem and, in effect, does the same 'mod' as we do, only with new parts. I did the mod on my car when it locked up three years ago - 52000 miles later - never a problem again.

Thanks for the info, Mark. This happened years ago...this is a prime example of the invaluable information one can glean from the Forum... so happy I found you guys.!!Carl:D

Fastrg 11-21-2013 12:14 PM

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BEEN THERE , I was at a shoppin center in my 2005 re roadster . Came out got in my car ,tried to turn ignition. It was "frozen". Had it towed to dealer....$1,500.00...There are a lot of us in the same boat. We have tried to get a recall. Look us up on the Form & add your name & VIN #. .....Fastrg

pizzaguy 11-21-2013 01:25 PM

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Most cars were built before 2006 -they are over 8 years old. I doubt you will get a recall action from Chrysler.

And besides, it's an under $200 fix if you print the instructions and take them to a local shop or shadetree mechanic.
This is ONE thing with the car that is cheap to fix!

Ed Mahoney 11-21-2013 01:33 PM

Re: Ignition Key Will not turn?? 2005 Coupe
 
shade tree mechanic ????? Havent heard that one in along time !!!! I moved from under the tree to inside the garage now !!!! LOL

ala_xfire 11-21-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Mahoney (Post 768059)
shade tree mechanic ????? Havent heard that one in along time !!!! I moved from under the tree to inside the garage now !!!! LOL

We still have lot's of 'em down south ....
1. handy limb to hang the chain hoist on.
2. who needs jack stands ? Just whack off a suitable branch.
3. dog can stay in the shade and you don't have to clean up the poop.
4. stays pretty dry unless there is a big downpour, tools don't get TOO rusty.
5. no fluid messes to clean up, just drain 'em where you are.
6. you get to experience the great outdoors and wave at your neighbors when they drive by.
7. sometimes the neighbors will stop, and you can compare guns.

Ed Mahoney 11-22-2013 12:43 PM

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I dont like the neighbor seeing how long it takes me to do the work !!!!!! LOL !!

Scanner 11-23-2013 11:09 PM

Re: Ignition Key Will not turn?? 2005 Coupe
 
I went to get in my car this cold Indy morning and my key won't turn. I tried graphite, blow drier, vibration on key ignition with no luck. I am not that skilled to take it apart and do the fix that I wish was done. Would a locksmith be an option to save on cost or does anyone have any other suggestions, Thanks

Fastrg 11-24-2013 12:16 PM

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Already been through this Indy....U may try squirting wd-40 in it . A couple of yrs ago the dealership got me for $1,500 , had to have it towed . A good local repair shop may B able to help you , but U may or may not B able to keep your old keys. They say the problem is in the "plastic tumblers" vs. metal ones . We have a large group on the site w/same prob. Look us up . We tried for a recall but heard nothing...Ron in Louisville.:(

onehundred80 11-24-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastrg (Post 768490)
Already been through this Indy....U may try squirting wd-40 in it . A couple of yrs ago the dealership got me for $1,500 , had to have it towed . A good local repair shop may B able to help you , but U may or may not B able to keep your old keys. They say the problem is in the "plastic tumblers" vs. metal ones . We have a large group on the site w/same prob. Look us up . We tried for a recall but heard nothing...Ron in Louisville.:(

Sorry, but the info above is all wrong.

Do the sticky key fix as described and be done with the problem for ever, you do not need a new ignition lock and therefore would not need new keys.

Fastrg 11-24-2013 02:23 PM

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Everyone not as fortunate or have "ALL" the technology that U have 180. I only told about what I experienced 3 yrs ago w/my '05 & it was "ALL" true . We did'nt have "ALL" of your info back then .

pizzaguy 11-24-2013 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastrg (Post 768502)
Everyone not as fortunate or have "ALL" the technology that U have 180. I only told about what I experienced 3 yrs ago w/my '05 & it was "ALL" true . We did'nt have "ALL" of your info back then .

Well, you got your information from a bunch that took you for $1500 - there is your problem.

100/80 is, as usual, right. Our sticky key fix is the answer and it has nothin to do with tumblers; the surgery prescribed takes about 90 minutes max and any local shop or shadetree mechanic can do the fix with only a handful of tools. And this has to be true, because I did it myself, in my garage, with no help except for the printed PDF from this site.

If I can do it, any local shop with a guy who can read and follow directions should be just fine. This is ONE time I don't think an MB garage is needed. :)

onehundred80 11-24-2013 05:49 PM

Re: Ignition Key Will not turn?? 2005 Coupe
 

Originally Posted by Fastrg (Post 768502)
Everyone not as fortunate or have "ALL" the technology that U have 180. I only told about what I experienced 3 yrs ago w/my '05 & it was "ALL" true . We did'nt have "ALL" of your info back then .

Well I guess "YOU" were unlucky not to have found this forum at that time as the info was "ALL" here and has been here since March 2009. which is over four and a half years ago.
The original post has been damaged as the poster took down his photos but it was rewritten by someone else in September 2009 and they did a better job of it.

pizzaguy 11-24-2013 06:42 PM

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Well, yea. I bought the Red Roadster in July of 2009 and knew about the fix after attending the fall Dragon in October 2009.
I never put the fix on that car, tho.

But this one locked up with NO WARNING a month after I bought it.

FIX IT NOW, even if you have NO SYMPTOMS, drilling the pin out due to a lock up makes the job way too tough!!!!

pjm30144 11-24-2013 06:53 PM

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Mine is sticking and hard to turn now. I have an appointment tomorrow at Roccos European Garage to have the sticky key fix done. I printed the PDF to take with me though they say they are familiar with the problem. The cost is $200.00

pizzaguy 11-24-2013 09:02 PM

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Report back on how it goes - if there is another good place to go, we want to know!

(And if they are familiar with the problem, then I suspect it is a good place to go.)


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