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phil alvirez 07-12-2019 08:24 AM

oil: which brand?
 
which 1 you use?
shopping for oil i have found big differences in price.
for instance: pennzoil ultra platinum synthetic 5 l: $32 cdn;
mobil 1 extended performance synthetic 4.7 l: $64 cdn (am in canada).
why such a large difference? what can you tell? is mobil higher quality so it justifies the double cost?
is there any evidence that proves technically that mobil is so much good?
tests?
thanks

steve1189 07-12-2019 09:25 AM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
Hey Phil,
Mobil 1 Synthetic 0-40 European Formula.
Can't remember the exact price but Walmart is a good source, reasonable price (mid $30 range).
Canadian Tire also sells it, regular price is around $55 for a jug but often goes on sale in the $30 range.
Steve

phil alvirez 07-12-2019 06:48 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
what i found at walmart is this:
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/mobil-1.../6000198839526

but that is still way higher than from canadian tire!

pizzaguy 07-12-2019 06:57 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
I don't buy oil or gasonline based on price. I haven't since I was 17 and driving a 240,000 mile Dodge pickup.

I go here:
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.3_en.html

Now, the only oil I could find locally was 0W40 (too hot in Texas for that) and 5W40.
So I went with 5W40.

I won't use 0W40, it's just too thin - and MB now recommends 5W40, they APPROVE of 0W40 but they RECOMMEND 5W40.

phil alvirez 07-12-2019 07:40 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
found these tests: Synthetic motor oils testing results - North American Motoring
that is scientific evidence. just was i was asking for.
tells me how each 1 does.
as in the example i posted, where mobil is twice as much as pennzoil
but pennzoil does better in the test. that is what i need.
but if any has links to more tests will be great.

JSK 07-13-2019 01:58 AM

Re: oil: which brand?
 

Originally Posted by pizzaguy (Post 926246)
I don't buy oil or gasonline based on price. I haven't since I was 17 and driving a 240,000 mile Dodge pickup.

I go here:
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.3_en.html

Now, the only oil I could find locally was 0W40 (too hot in Texas for that) and 5W40.
So I went with 5W40.

I won't use 0W40, it's just too thin - and MB now recommends 5W40, they APPROVE of 0W40 but they RECOMMEND 5W40.

Mark, do you use Formula M?

dedwards0323 07-13-2019 07:11 AM

Re: oil: which brand?
 

Originally Posted by phil alvirez (Post 926216)
which 1 you use?
shopping for oil i have found big differences in price.
for instance: pennzoil ultra platinum synthetic 5 l: $32 cdn;
mobil 1 extended performance synthetic 4.7 l: $64 cdn (am in canada).
why such a large difference? what can you tell? is mobil higher quality so it justifies the double cost?
is there any evidence that proves technically that mobil is so much good?
tests?
thanks

I use the Mobil 1 ECF (European Car Formula) 0w-40 in my Crossfire. If I were to switch to the Pennzoil product line, I would use the Pennzoil Platinum Euro Full Synthetic 5W-40 Motor Oil.

What I am considering with the next oil change is using a couple of quarts of Amazon Basics 0w-40 European Formula Full Synthetic motor oil. Reports show it to be an equal to the Mobil 1 brand in lube tests. It is manufactured in Omaha, Nebraska by Warren Distribution, which is a producer of many lube products for both public & private labels.

steve1189 07-13-2019 08:29 AM

Re: oil: which brand?
 

Originally Posted by phil alvirez (Post 926245)
what i found at walmart is this:
https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/mobil-1.../6000198839526

but that is still way higher than from canadian tire!

In-store price is much less than on-line, at least locally.

phil alvirez 07-13-2019 05:32 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
the prices shown are in store:
pennzoil ultra platinum synthetic 5 l: $32 cdn;
mobil 1 extended performance synthetic 4.7 l: $64 cdn
hence my doubt.

pizzaguy 07-13-2019 05:40 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 

Originally Posted by JSK (Post 926262)
Mark, do you use Formula M?

NO. The last few changes I used Castrol EDGE Syntec 5W40. It's the only 5W40 on the 229.3 list I could find locally.

JSK 07-14-2019 01:26 AM

Re: oil: which brand?
 

Originally Posted by pizzaguy (Post 926295)
NO. The last few changes I used Castrol EDGE Syntec 5W40. It's the only 5W40 on the 229.3 list I could find locally.

Thanks. I’ve always thought 0w40 was light for my location but have been reluctant to switch. Now you give me food for thought.

DKAwildcat 07-14-2019 12:52 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
I see that Walmart has 5-quart bottles of Mobil 1 0W-40 on sale for $19.99.

phil alvirez 07-14-2019 08:38 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
just got my 2005 coupe ltd on 4th of july. the dealer said changed oil 50 km ago and is semi-synthetic but i rather want to use full synt (and fleece filter)
i want to use pennzoil. locally i can get pennzoil plat euro 5w20, 5w30, or 0w20. or plat ultra in 0w20, 5w20, or 5w30.
which 1 you guys think fits better? why? or do i wait until the plat ultra 0w40 is available?
thanks

phil alvirez 07-14-2019 08:47 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
from post #12:

"I see that Walmart has 5-quart bottles of Mobil 1 0W-40 on sale for $19.99."



not in this ranch. still much more

pizzaguy 07-14-2019 11:09 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 

Originally Posted by phil alvirez (Post 926364)
just got my 2005 coupe ltd on 4th of july. the dealer said changed oil 50 km ago and is semi-synthetic but i rather want to use full synt (and fleece filter)
i want to use pennzoil. locally i can get pennzoil plat euro 5w20, 5w30, or 0w20. or plat ultra in 0w20, 5w20, or 5w30.
which 1 you guys think fits better? why? or do i wait until the plat ultra 0w40 is available?
thanks

Click this:
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.3_en.html

Looks to me like you are looking at oils that are all thinner than MB approves of, other than the 5W30.
I'd stick with 5W40 or, since you live way up north, 0W40.

You should be able to order it thru thelubricantstore.com - I THINK they sthip to Canada.
But c'mon, there must be plenty of MB products on the road up there, I'd think you can find the stuff you need SOMEWHERE locally.

WD40 07-14-2019 11:43 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 

Originally Posted by pizzaguy (Post 926246)
I don't buy oil or gasonline based on price. I haven't since I was 17 and driving a 240,000 mile Dodge pickup.

I go here:
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.3_en.html

Now, the only oil I could find locally was 0W40 (too hot in Texas for that) and 5W40.
So I went with 5W40.

I won't use 0W40, it's just too thin - and MB now recommends 5W40, they APPROVE of 0W40 but they RECOMMEND 5W40.

NOW that I've run around half of Birmingham finding 0W40... NOW you say 5W40!!! Well guess what? It's getting 0W40 this time! For reelz though, thanks for the list. It really opens up the possibilities.

pizzaguy 07-14-2019 11:56 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 

Originally Posted by JSK (Post 926320)
Thanks. I’ve always thought 0w40 was light for my location but have been reluctant to switch. Now you give me food for thought.

I should tell you that I ran Mobile 1 5W50 for a LONG time in the Graphite, it was a high miles daily driver. I did two oil changes a year. Used 5W50 for the April change and 5W40 for the fall change - due to the fact that north Georgia got down to 25-30F at night a LOT.

Monitoring oil pressures, I eventually gave up on the 5W50 when I got the SE, it is driven to little, I do annual changes and 5W50 in temperatures below about 60F resulted it just too high of oil pressure at cold start. z

I've leaned towards thicker oils since I was a teen ager. Ran 15W50 and 20W50 for years in my GMC truck that called for 5W20 - that engine and truck are on the road today, March of 2013 or 14, on my birthday, the guy sent a a picture of the odometer - 408,000 miles. But with the Crossfires, I won't put ANYthing in there that is not on the 229.3 list.

pizzaguy 07-14-2019 11:59 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 

Originally Posted by WD40 (Post 926375)
NOW that I've run around half of Birmingham finding 0W40... NOW you say 5W40!!! Well guess what? It's getting 0W40 this time! For reelz though, thanks for the list. It really opens up the possibilities.

I like to tell people that "0W40 is approved, but the current MB recommendation is for 5W40". Too thin for me, but fact is, MANY of our cars are well above 100,000 miles and a few are past 200,000 and I know most are running one brand or other of 0W40. Even I admit that.

phil alvirez 07-15-2019 02:15 AM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
about post #15:
thank you for the data. the list approved by MB shows 1 that is available in this ranch (5W30), that is the 1 you suggest, so this is the solution.
thanks again.

boy, even if chrysler did a great job sabotaging this wonderfful car, on the other hand we have this fantastic group that is bringing a terrific help to the owners.

phil alvirez 07-15-2019 05:39 PM

Re: oil: which brand?
 
following pizzaguy advice and the results of the test https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...g-results.html i got the pennzoil 5W30 at cdn$40 for 5 lt (purchased 2) and the mercedes filter adviced here too. i mean, the pennzoil platinum euro synthetic
the filter and oil in the car seemed dark, so i dont think what the dealer said that oil had been changed just 50km before is true. at least now am sure what is in there.


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