Methanol/Alcohol Injection
Originally Posted by oledoc2u
Thanks Les, I will read thru it....
Les, did you see where they stated the meth/water mix is evaporated before it hits the AIT sensor? So the AIT sensor is reading normal spray? Not what you want. Just a thought.
Les, did you see where they stated the meth/water mix is evaporated before it hits the AIT sensor? So the AIT sensor is reading normal spray? Not what you want. Just a thought.
yeah, lol, I was thinking that when I read the thread...lol... We will be trying something similar, but the AIT, has to read cool, or IT WILL advance timing killing HP... If you can't accomplish this, save your money...and you have to data log to get there. That is why you either have to move the jet, or the AIT sensor itself while experimenting... good read though...
Originally Posted by dinasrt
Hi there Doc. Please keep in mind that the thread was with the Tres Amigos; A Lawyer/Accountant/Engineer. And between the three, it seems that they did a whole $hit load of work, and still didn't get it right.
I'd side with Woody and grip grip any day, over these guys. Just saying. Happy Thanksgiving and Holidays to you.
11's.....where are those 11's? I didn't see them...did you? 11's ..... last time I saw 11, it was on my football jersey 40 yrs ago....
Hopefully, they worked it out, because that is the route I am going.
Originally Posted by 32krazy!
remember those 3 amigos run low 11's! they did it working fine. its a perfect time to remove the s/c drain the fluid replace it inspect the i/c tap it for meth and reinstall with all new gaskets. total time less than a saturday. doing it properly the first time is way better than doing twice wrong just my .02 if the kit i want comes to pass this is the route i will go and also tune for meth to run all the time as its cheap and easy to find.
Originally Posted by dinasrt
Mainly I was just joking around. But I also misunderstood when Les said they lost a lot of H.P., but apparently that was someone else. Your approach sounds great too Steve; probably get everything coated in the gold while it's down too.
Originally Posted by 32krazy!
they did have a few issues as well as the other guy. the main thing about meth or nitrous is if your going this route tuning for it is essential. using the mutiple tuner box from e/c so you have a meth tune and a street tune or tuning for meth to run all the time its the tuning that brings the power and the benefits on. for me im thinking of tuning for it as a full time tune as the meth is cheap and the benefits work whether racing or driving to the mall. the big concern is running low on the meth while tuned for it or having a solenoid failure and filling the cylinders with fluid while the car is off. the more failsafes the better. make no mistake this can be risky buisness. weather changes affect the tune as do the fuel your using and the quality of the meth. for sure even when the kit is on the benchit will be a while and tons of research before i use it
Originally Posted by oledoc2u
Well stated Steve. I have been setting on this project and researching it for well over a year, and soon to be two years. I have committed to do it. Keep in mine, if you keep your big foot out of it, meth isn't in the picture. If you bring the boost up, then it is. And it will not use all that much, but I do agree with all the failsafes as well. Never can be too cautious. That doesn't mean I won't change my mind once we are in there. LOL.....not for the faint of heart.
Originally Posted by 32krazy!
doc most of the kits have a start and stop setting. so in therory you can set it to flow from as little as 1000 rpm to max boost. just found out my offer was rejected for the kit i was trying to get.
so the search continues. havent seen any other kit that i would want to try yet
Coolingmist/ Devilsown have great set up as well. I think they are www.coolingmist.com and www.devils-own.com if I remember correctly. But, again, if the setup and tuning isn't correct, I don't think the money is worth it.
Originally Posted by oledoc2u
Steve, I will bring mine on at higher boost. I just don't see a need at that low of setting...but that is what experimenting and tuning is all about, right?.... Good luck with your search, and yes, mine will be a Snow.
Coolingmist/ Devilsown have great set up as well. I think they are www.coolingmist.com and www.devils-own.com if I remember correctly. But, again, if the setup and tuning isn't correct, I don't think the money is worth it.
Coolingmist/ Devilsown have great set up as well. I think they are www.coolingmist.com and www.devils-own.com if I remember correctly. But, again, if the setup and tuning isn't correct, I don't think the money is worth it.
Last edited by 32krazy!; Nov 25, 2011 at 09:52 AM.
I saw what you sent me....but, I am looking at cooling...no need to put that much into it. Get some data log runs in, make a few adjustments and we are good. Just don't over do it truck driver....don't make it more than it is....good luck either way....off to kick my financial planner's butt....moving what is left of my investments today...damned economy, or lack of economy...I should say. At least we are buying Steve...we are doing our part...lol....talk to you later...
I bought mrphotoman's car.
I have not been to the track yet but I can tell you that the boost gauge does read higher when the meth is turned on. It is set to spray at 10psi.
The pants o meter tells me it is faster with the meth too.
I have some of my own mods in mind but it is hard to argued with how he set it up. He did break into the 11's with it.
I have not been to the track yet but I can tell you that the boost gauge does read higher when the meth is turned on. It is set to spray at 10psi.
The pants o meter tells me it is faster with the meth too.
I have some of my own mods in mind but it is hard to argued with how he set it up. He did break into the 11's with it.
Mrphotoman once told me he sprayed before the throttle body at 3 gph triggered to come on at 10 psi. At least that's what I remember as it was a while ago .... and I'm senile.
He was using it on the road courses with good results. I really don't want to fool the IAT sensor and would rather, as Woody points out, that the spray be totally vaporized. The Devil's own people gave a stamp of approval to spraying before the supercharger and remarked that it would up the boost a few PSI by sealing the clearance between the rotors and housing. I don't know myself. My new fan has to go in first and then we'll see. Who was it that made the mini battery hold down adapter? I may need one.
Les
He was using it on the road courses with good results. I really don't want to fool the IAT sensor and would rather, as Woody points out, that the spray be totally vaporized. The Devil's own people gave a stamp of approval to spraying before the supercharger and remarked that it would up the boost a few PSI by sealing the clearance between the rotors and housing. I don't know myself. My new fan has to go in first and then we'll see. Who was it that made the mini battery hold down adapter? I may need one.Les
I spray water/meth at the track and haven't seen any positive results ..... BUT .... I just discovered that boost is leaking into my intercooler circuit so all my prior info is out the window. I knew I had a slight leak but it never occurred to me that the boost would displace the water and impede the flow. I don't feel like a genius at the moment. My spray comes on around 10 psi and is at the maximum at 30 psi. In other words, it's never at maximum but that's how my car liked it best on the dyno. If I sprayed too much the top end weakened a bit. We'll have to see after I get my new, non leaking intercooler.
Les
Les
I used to use methanol/h20 on my turbocharged BMW. After the turbo, midway between the intercooler and the throttle body. Idea is to make gas, heated h20 that is flammable increasing octane! It's also ambient temperature cooling the charge. This would allow us to tune and increase the stock boost by 2-3x and run the timing up +10 through third and fourth gear. The tune would be attached to a failsafe so that if the methanol didn't spray, or spray enough, that boost would stay at stock levels or just above. No reason why an SRT6 wouldn't love it!
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