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rcompart 11-14-2012 02:19 PM

New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
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UPDATE:

These upgraded intercoolers are finished and can be purchased via the PayPal links below.

Accelerated Intercooler Upgrade for SRT6/32AMG - $1050 plus shipping

Accelerated Intercooler Upgrade for SRT6/32AMG w/ Installation Kit - $1240 plus shipping

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I've seen enough threads about the old and busted OEM Intercooler. Know what I think... Fugetaboutit! So since we're not talking about that thing anymore, how about we discuss new IC cores and what they can offer. This isn't a hacked up air-to-air core but a custom sized air-to-water core made especially for this particular application. Inlet, outlet, endtanks and everything else will be scratch-built with only three things in mind, performance, fit and reproducibility. No preorders or anything at this time, just building it for my own car as my second OEM core just started wetting the bed after only being in the car 35k. If it works out, perhaps these will be available in the future.

For your viewing pleasure.

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/1718/photo2bze.jpg

FUBU 11-14-2012 02:24 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
put me on the list :D

rcompart 11-14-2012 02:29 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 

Originally Posted by FUBU (Post 708277)
put me on the list :D

THREADCRAPPERS

1) FUBU

Ok, you're on the list! :p

JHM2K 11-14-2012 02:29 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
Looks yummy.

JesseJamessrt6 11-14-2012 02:47 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
Rudy, do have a real job, or do you just make time to find/develop perfect performance items missing from available vendors?

rcompart 11-14-2012 03:00 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 

Originally Posted by JesseJamessrt6 (Post 708289)
Rudy, do have a real job, or do you just make time to find/develop perfect performance items missing from available vendors?

Most of this stuff is because I want or need something nobody makes. This time around, it's because I'm not gonna throw money at Mercedes for something that is a flawed piece of crap and will fail again.

JesseJamessrt6 11-14-2012 03:07 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
I left out that I am very appreciative for all your research and commitment in bringing products to life. Thanks!

FUBU 11-14-2012 04:28 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 

Originally Posted by rcompart (Post 708280)
THREADCRAPPERS

1) FUBU

Ok, you're on the list! :p

Come on Rudy, I actually want one, when you will get it for us to buy.

bluecoupe 11-14-2012 05:36 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 

Originally Posted by FUBU (Post 708306)
Come on Rudy, I actually want one, when you will get it for us to buy.

You better get another paper route FUBU, or hit your Granny up.......this one ain't gonna be cheap!

waldig 11-14-2012 06:08 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
Iam interested in the activities, keep us all informed please. Woody

32krazy! 11-14-2012 07:06 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
great minds think alike!! ill see your air to water i/c and raise you 2 huge air to air i/c!! 4.5" x 9"x 14" !!
http://i48.tinypic.com/34oc3nn.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/fu175e.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/34dps7n.jpg

chuK_138 11-14-2012 07:43 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
So does the invoice say "CL555" in the core section for any reason?

32krazy! 11-14-2012 07:50 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 

Originally Posted by chuK_138 (Post 708332)
So does the invoice say "CL555" in the core section for any reason?

prolly not. bell cores are size only. length x width x height. you order what size you want and they build them. end tanks and tubing is up to the builder

JesseJamessrt6 11-14-2012 08:07 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
NICE! I am guessing these are for your twin turbo. Please post pics when you are done with this project.

rcompart 11-14-2012 11:39 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 

Originally Posted by 32krazy! (Post 708322)
great minds think alike!! ill see your air to water i/c and raise you 2 huge air to air i/c!! 4.5" x 9"x 14" !!

Very nice Steve!

JHM2K 11-14-2012 11:45 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
I've held some nice bricks of coke in my past, but those things are massive in person! :D

Silverarrow 11-15-2012 01:08 AM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 

Originally Posted by rcompart (Post 708273)
I've seen enough threads about the old and busted OEM Intercooler. Know what I think... Fugetaboutit! So since we're not talking about that thing anymore, how about we discuss new IC cores and what they can offer. This isn't a hacked up air-to-air core but a custom sized air-to-water core made especially for this particular application. Inlet, outlet, endtanks and everything else will be scratch-built with only three things in mind, performance, fit and reproducibility. No preorders or anything at this time, just building it for my own car as my second OEM core just started wetting the bed after only being in the car 35k. If it works out, perhaps these will be available in the future.

For your viewing pleasure.

http://imageshack.us/a/img16/1718/photo2bze.jpg

Really nice core, what is the size?

Billy22Bob 11-15-2012 04:48 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
sweet....!
A thing of beauty.
That looks like it'll do da bidness - ie: for a 20-50% increase over stock
Seemingly thinner walls and less metal (thermal inertia) - but at the end of the day - wack this in and you still gotta have a 20-50% increase in your IC performance (rejection) to go with it.

And - I dont think you should be chasing 20-50% either - not if you want to go >20psi and a consistent <122F AIT.
We should be looking at 150% increase....(>20kW (70kBTU/hr)
That is - the OEM CAC is undersized for anything other than stock road driving and the ocassional WOT. Soon as you do a hill climb or get 100F + days or wannna do a 1/4 trap speed >100mph - it doesnt seem to have the performance to cope.

I mean - I had a look at some pullied logs last week with a Supercooler and water seperation kit etc included and it was choking (AIT's >120F) after 6 seconds from the get go. This is not good (without stating the bleeding obvious). And that's with only 40% extra boost.
Hey - the SL55 only runs 11psi - they cant get the heat rejection from the nose of the car.

However - I've got another idea for the IC and water side that could be worthwhile - but to avoid a hyjack I'll raise an alternate thread.

Air/Air - from an engineering perspective - not as good when comparing apples with apples...ie: frontal air surfaces - otherwise the SRT6/SLK32 would have not gone water over air. water hase 1000 x the heat capacity of air per Litre/quart.

Given all this talk - is it a fact that we have to pull our old CAC out to do the design or are there drawings available of the Valley, the hold down bolts and/or the old cooler??????:confused:

rcompart 11-16-2012 02:16 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
Making some progress! :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img801/9548/photo3mj.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img641/3928/photo4yjk.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/2619/photo5oz.jpg

waldig 11-16-2012 02:20 PM

Re: New Intercooler Core anyone? OH YEAH, IT JUST GOT REAL!!!
 
Gee golly you even got Jigs. WTG there, keep us informed. Iam still doing testing and hope to see what the water flow is like in parallel i.e. single pass water circuit. Are you making a multiple ( how many ) pass IC core??

WEEKEND Woody
;)


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