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LaserMark4 May 18, 2019 11:23 AM

Who'd Win the Race??
 
So it appears the engines of both the 32AMG (M112) and the SRT-6 (also M112) are identical but Mercedes notoriously posted the hp/torque figures nearly 7% higher.

So back in 2005, if you took a stock SLK32AMG and a stock SRT-6 off the show room and went head-to-head, who would win the 0-60 and who'd win the 1/4 mile?

Looking to add one more 2-seater to the repertoire.... ;>)

2fastNstuff May 18, 2019 01:18 PM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 
Don't know, but I will sell you an srt6 that would beat both of them.

LaserMark4 May 18, 2019 03:17 PM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 

Originally Posted by 2fastNstuff (Post 923245)
Don't know, but I will sell you an srt6 that would beat both of them.

Actually I'm more on the lookout for a stock/low miles roadster. But thanks for the interest.

dinasrt May 18, 2019 05:10 PM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 

Originally Posted by LaserMark4 (Post 923254)
Actually I'm more on the lookout for a stock/low miles SRT6 roadster. But thanks for the interest.

Since you started this thread mentioning racing, maybe you'd prefer the faster roadster?

onehundred80 May 18, 2019 05:51 PM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 

Originally Posted by dinasrt (Post 923268)
Since you started this thread mentioning racing, maybe you'd prefer the faster roadster?

The fastest is the coupe, it is a bit lighter and probably more aerodynamic.

dinasrt May 18, 2019 09:45 PM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 

Originally Posted by onehundred80 (Post 923271)
The fastest is the coupe, it is a bit lighter and probably more aerodynamic.

You've lost a step in your old age Dave; My post was addressing his question of the Roadster, i.e. SRT6 Roadster vs. SRT6 Coupe.

onehundred80 May 18, 2019 10:12 PM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 

Originally Posted by dinasrt (Post 923279)
you've lost a step in your old age dave; my post was addressing his question of the roadster, i.e. Srt6 roadster vs. Sert6 coupe.

slk32.

dinasrt May 18, 2019 11:38 PM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 

Originally Posted by onehundred80 (Post 923281)
slk32.

I see how I may have confused the conversation. I was suggesting to him that if he wanted the Crossfire Roadster, then perhaps he may like the faster SRT6.

No2fast May 19, 2019 05:00 AM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 
Mercedes SLK32 AMG win allways, fact!

Why??empirical study: Because those cars are made in Germany and not USA (better quality=> faster car) . The drivers commonly and usually have more brain and don`t ask stupid questions (more brain=>faster reaction times=>better ET quartermile). Also (allready seen on this forums) Crossfire SRT6 drivers commonly eat more fastfood => bad power to weight ratio.

Only kidding ;-)

amx1397 May 19, 2019 11:08 AM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 

Originally Posted by LaserMark4 (Post 923238)
So it appears the engines of both the 32AMG (M112) and the SRT-6 (also M112) are identical but Mercedes notoriously posted the hp/torque figures nearly 7% higher.

So back in 2005, if you took a stock SLK32AMG and a stock SRT-6 off the show room and went head-to-head, who would win the 0-60 and who'd win the 1/4 mile?

Looking to add one more 2-seater to the repertoire.... ;>)

with the slk32 weighting 3075
and the srt6 weighting 3220
both are made in germany on the same assembly line. the slk 170 chassis ended 2001 the crossfire started in 2003 for the 2004 model year
the 17" tires on the mercedes were easier to turn, the 18 and 19's slowed the srt6 down
so THE MERCEDES WOULD WIN ,, and did don't forget the srt is detuned slightly
at the 1/8 mile the mercedes is in the lead and the crossfire can't catch it.

the mercedes

Performance

Top speed250 kph (155 mph)

0 - 100 kph5.0 s

0 - 200 kph17.6 s

0 - 60 mph4.5 s

0 - 100 mph10.6 s

Est. 1/8 mile 8.9 s @ 90.7 mph

1/4 mile13.0 s @ 110.0 mph

Est. 100 - 200 kph12.6 s

Est. max acceleration0.60 g

the srt

Performance

Top speed255 kph (158 mph)

0 - 100 kph5.0 s

0 - 200 kph19.5 s

0 - 100 mph12.3 s

Est. 1/8 mile 9.1 s @ 87.0 mph

1/4 mile13.0 s @ 108.1 mph

Est. 100 - 200 kph14.5 s

Est. max acceleration0.62 g (6 m/sē)

onehundred80 May 19, 2019 12:30 PM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 

Originally Posted by amx1397 (Post 923294)
with the slk32 weighting 3075
and the srt6 weighting 3220
both are made in germany on the same assembly line. the slk 170 chassis ended 2001 the crossfire started in 2003 for the 2004 model year
the 17" tires on the mercedes were easier to turn, the 18 and 19's slowed the srt6 down
so THE MERCEDES WOULD WIN ,, and did don't forget the srt is detuned slightly
at the 1/8 mile the mercedes is in the lead and the crossfire can't catch it.

the mercedes

Performance

Top speed250 kph (155 mph)

0 - 100 kph5.0 s

0 - 200 kph17.6 s

0 - 60 mph4.5 s

0 - 100 mph10.6 s

Est. 1/8 mile 8.9 s @ 90.7 mph

1/4 mile13.0 s @ 110.0 mph

Est. 100 - 200 kph12.6 s

Est. max acceleration0.60 g

the srt

Performance

Top speed255 kph (158 mph)

0 - 100 kph5.0 s

0 - 200 kph19.5 s

0 - 100 mph12.3 s

Est. 1/8 mile 9.1 s @ 87.0 mph

1/4 mile13.0 s @ 108.1 mph

Est. 100 - 200 kph14.5 s

Est. max acceleration0.62 g (6 m/sē)

The SRT weight you give is the coupe weight - actually 3,240 lbs according to the specs. The roadster weight is 3,328 lbs according to the specs.
In the video and the talk arranged by harbour and given in the Woodward meet hotel in Detroit in 2010 by two engineers on the Crossfire team, it was stated that the SRT6 engine was not detuned at all, the ads just said that it was lower in hp.
Tuners state the official figures which make the gains on the SRT look bigger than they are.
The top speeds stated are set by limiters, they can go faster.

JEFASOLD May 22, 2019 03:24 AM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 
[QUOTE=amx1397;923294]with the slk32 weighting 3075
and the srt6 weighting 3220
both are made in germany on the same assembly line. the slk 170 chassis ended 2001 the crossfire started in 2003 for the 2004 model year
the 17" tires on the mercedes were easier to turn, the 18 and 19's slowed the srt6 down
so THE MERCEDES WOULD WIN ,, and did don't forget the srt is detuned slightly
at the 1/8 mile the mercedes is in the lead and the crossfire can't catch it.

the mercedes
Not according to the Chrysler guys involved the SRT6 was not detuned but for a reason, I forgot the SRT6 might have made a few more HPe than the MercQUOTE]

LaserMark4 May 22, 2019 11:50 AM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 
One wonders if some of the discrepancies were "negotiated" as marketing ploys to differentiate between the two versions? Weight certainly is a small part to play. Sounds like the jury is out on whether the detuning took place- I would have my doubts as well.

Good stuff!

chriscat32 May 22, 2019 04:36 PM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 
Bottom line, the better driver would win!

blackpepper May 24, 2019 10:37 AM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 
If the slk was so much faster just go look at the Srt6 dragtimes board vs the slk board enough said

Padgett May 25, 2019 10:47 AM

Re: Who'd Win the Race??
 
Agree the order is SRT Coupe > SLK32 with top up > SRT roadster. But the differences come down more to the driver than the car and all are hampered by the automatic. In an autocross or tight road course I'd match my 6-speed Crossfire Coupe with UTQG 100 tires & Wavetec against any of the above.

SLK is more of a boulevard cruiser and I prefer to the roadster for two reasons: retractable hardtop and more leg room. Otherwise the two are identical (well the SRT has more fender flares for the larger tires - stock Crossfire wheels and tires on an SLK hit the rear fender lips.

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