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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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Well I took my intake manifolds off yesterday and there was quite a bit of oil residue/buildup. This could explain why my car felt weak at times , probally because the IAT sensor was covered in oil and the ecu pulling timming? Can we pre-order. I am ready now and my car won't be put back together until I do this mod.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 08:50 AM
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While doing some of the design of the catch can with Rob I added a length of hose to allow the can to be drained from underneath the car. THis allowed me to reach under the car on the ground, and take off the cap, drain and replace in about 30 seconds. THat makes it really easy to use and Rob will have instructions for you so that you can do the same.

I am proud he liked another of my projects and put it into his line up of products.

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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 03:58 PM
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ok, got it up
http://www.needswings.com/Product.as...5-8da2b6b30dcb
silver shown but black will be the default color. ill be dropping off the cans we have finished monday morning so we should be able to start shipping the black ones once the coating is completed.

i removed the included intake manifold gaskets as it would be an unnecessary cost for n/a xfires and also for those that have our intake manifolds and already have a spare set of gaskets.

i chose to go with the teflon coating for the exterior due to its scrach protection above and beyond the powdercoating ability.

the can can be drained in 2 ways, either with the drain right under the can in which you undo the 1 nut/bolt setup, lift up the can, put a cup underneith, drain, close, reinstall. as shown in the pictures of the can.

also woody prefered the drain line to go underneith the car so the can does not need to be unbolted and lifted up, but rather set cup on ground, reach under car, open drain, wait for empty, close drain and finished. we are waiting for the hose barb fittings for the 2nd method (not pictured yet) but will be included with the kits.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Order placed!

Thank you NeedsWings...


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Old Feb 21, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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here is the catch can + srt6 IM gaskets combo
http://www.needswings.com/Products.a...1-885537264510
 
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Anyone wondering if there motor is injesting a bit of oil through the intake/evap, just hop around to your exhaust tips and peak for black carbon buildup on the bottom of the tips.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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we dropped a dozen completed cans off to be teflon coated semi gloss black today (snuck them in with the manifolds being coated). they shoudl be finished and ready to ship this week

i did get confirmation that they can do a flat/satin black as well but those will have to be done in the next batch as they were already prepping the semi gloss black teflon
 
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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the teflon is being baked now, should be finished and ready for pickup later today
 
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by XXxx_Totmacher_xxXX
...black carbon buildup on the bottom of the tips.
Isn't that also a sign of an overly rich tune? Or is the location of the buildup (as you noted on the bottom of the tips) a tell-tale sign of oil vapor consumption?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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picked them up today, the black teflon came out to what i guess you would call satin? its between flat and gloss
 
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Rob,
Are these hollow inside or is there some type of filter media, i.e. sponge or SS wire mesh?

Thanks in advance!

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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I got this one, there are baffels and two cells of Stainless steel wool media pads to get the vapors and allow them to condense on the media, TA Daaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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chambered internals with ss filtering media
 
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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Thanks Woody, Thanks Rob!!

That is what I needed to know.


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Old Mar 1, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by msheredy
Isn't that also a sign of an overly rich tune? Or is the location of the buildup (as you noted on the bottom of the tips) a tell-tale sign of oil vapor consumption?

wipe your finger on it. is it oil?

Reality is 95% of your driving is in open loop, so the car should be running stoichiometric. I would hope most tuners leave the open loop tuning alone...

It's standard practice for a boosted aplication to be forced to injest oil (crank case vapors) from the factory. There really is no legal way around it from an emissions stand point. I guess the question isn't are you injesting oil, but instead how much oil are you injesting. Robs can is intended to prevent the vapors from becoming oil in your engine, but instead in the can where they can be delt with.

lol I'm shocked it's taken over 3 years to bring a custom "catch can" to the SRT-6 market lol.
 

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Old Mar 5, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Hi Rob,

My catch can arrived today. I probably won't get to the install until the weekend depending on the weather. It looks great...

Thanks Rob for the great product and Woody for the R&D . I will post install results...


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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Having played with boosted Turbo Dodge 2.2s for many years, the 'catch' can has become a staple.

However, all of the ones I have ever seen have a 'manual' drain on the bottom. Couldn't you just route the drain back into the oil pan? Chrysler kind of did this with the `90-`92 turbo cars by draining back into the turbo drain tube.

I have never tried it and my only turbo car left is in the process of being rebuilt.

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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Egodriver71
Having played with boosted Turbo Dodge 2.2s for many years, the 'catch' can has become a staple.

However, all of the ones I have ever seen have a 'manual' drain on the bottom. Couldn't you just route the drain back into the oil pan? Chrysler kind of did this with the `90-`92 turbo cars by draining back into the turbo drain tube.

I have never tried it and my only turbo car left is in the process of being rebuilt.

Thanks,
ditto.. would also like to know. It seems simple enough unless the return line is above the catch cans drain.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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I'm not sure you would want what gets collected in the can to go back into the crankcase. Woody can you elaborate on what you have gotten out of your catch can?

The can not only collects oil vapor but water vapor. My install is only a couple of weeks old and I have only driven a few miles so I don't expect I have much in mine to verify this. The other thing is it is my understanding that this is emptied when you change the oil.

Like I said, maybe Woody, Rob @ NeedsWings or Anthony @ TVT can shed more light on this than me. Good luck and stay safe...


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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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it is not clean oil, its a mixture of combusted oil and water = crud we dont want
 
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