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Default Mercedes Engine Cover Mods and 74 mm Throttle Body

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Parts to do this modification are:


Mercedes engine cover #A 112 090 11 01

The front part of this two piece cover is part #A112 010 04 67

Intake tubes, P/side #A112 094 35 82, D/side #A112 094 34 82. Best fit is two of the #A112 094 34 82 with the home made spacers shown below.

Filters, K&N's #33-2181, OEM (paper) A 112 094 00 04

See this ad for two sets of filters for this mod.

74 mm Throttle Body, Mercedes #A113 141 01 25

Throttle body O-ring Chrysler#05102933AA, Mercedes #305 997 03 45.

The larger (74mm) MAF, Mercedes #A 113 094 00 48. Using the original OEM MAF sensor.

Donut seal for engine cover to MAF unit, Mercedes #112 094 01 80 (If original is damaged)

Last but not least a Eurocharged tune.




 

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Old 04-01-2011, 10:03 PM
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Have you already done the install?
Any pics?
 
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Have you already done the install?
Any pics?
He has not even gone to pick the parts up yet!

Too busy out clubbin'
 
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Old 04-01-2011, 11:21 PM
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He has not even gone to pick the parts up yet!

Too busy out clubbin'

I do have all the parts, here, in Buffalo, in the mail or on a Purolator truck. JIT(FTT), just in time for the tune.
I'm actually very good at planning and micro managing, by the time I have proved to myself I could do a project I forget about it and move on to the next. Just ask my wife, I planned for a big family, had one child and then moved on to the next project. It saves money and leaves lots of time for more planning.
Around the house I'm a virtual handyman.
My motto, how hard can it be?

As for the clubbin', there weren't too many seals on the ice this year, so we shot a few polar bears.
 

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Your parts worked great on my car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha Ha
 
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Bump, post #1 modified.
 
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Whew....finally.


Looks great Dave.
 
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Bump, post number one finally finished.
 
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What was post #1...I had already moved on...............
 
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Originally Posted by onehundred80

These 'Torx Plus' tamper resistant screws have five points not six like the normal Torx and tamper resistant Torx
I have yet to find a five point torx on the Crossfire. I will have to pay more attention. Actually I did not know they existed.
 
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Thanks for all the info, I have started my part search. Do you know if the v8 tubes are longer? I found a complete setup on the bay but it has V8 front cover and tubes. Figure the tubes will be usable but only the cover pieces have part# listed.

Also what would you consider a good price?
Was thinking ~150 for the cover and tubes, and the same for TB and larger MAF housing would be a good deal, expecting to pay a bit more but wanted to have a general cost in mind.
 
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Thanks for all the info, I have started my part search. Do you know if the v8 tubes are longer? I found a complete setup on the bay but it has V8 front cover and tubes. Figure the tubes will be usable but only the cover pieces have part# listed.

Also what would you consider a good price?
Was thinking ~150 for the cover and tubes, and the same for TB and larger MAF housing would be a good deal, expecting to pay a bit more but wanted to have a general cost in mind.
The tubes are about the same length, without the adapter I made they just about fit to the fittings on the rad support frame. Prices are all over the map so I cannot give you a hard number there.
TB and MAF should come to about $150, the TB goes for around $100 to $125. You do not need the larger MAF sensor just the body so it should be cheap.
Make sure you specify the part numbers or they may swap a different part that does not fit. I have two A 112 90 15 01, look the same until you realize they are about 3/8" too high and rub the hood liner. Someone switched out the part I requested and at one point I had three of them.
I ended up with two unused parts for the engine cover, but two main bodies (15 01's) and a V8 nose piece as well. Finally these were to taken to the dump.
 

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Thanks again for the help. Ultragauge showed up last week and I have been monitoring my intake numbers to get a baseline for comparison. Temps will be hard to compare but I'll see what averages look like. Available numbers are intake temp (f), intake pressure (psi), MAF1 (g/s), MAF2 (g/s). I setup a view with those numbers plus throttle position (%). Main thing I can see is throttle position vs MAF readings. Speed/RPM doesn't seem to effect much but I'll have to keep an eye out. So far MAF readings are consistent at specific throttle positions. I'll try to get on the highway and use the cruise control to keep the throttle position as steady as possible and compare numbers at the same % with different parts. Not really sure what else I can use besides dyno time. Will prob start ordering some parts this weekend.
 
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I'm going to be removing my intake tubes soon and switching over to the two plastic ones you showed us above.

The TVT tubes require band clamps to be used on the airbox side and on the silicone tubes passing through the core support... Anytime the motor shifts on the mounts, the band clamps pull crooked and no matter how many times I've straightened them out, they go back crooked after hard driving. No doubt, I need to be investigating motor mounts soon.

Also, the TVT tubes retain heat for a much longer time than the OE plastic. The plastic is very thin, so even though it does a poorer job of insulating from heat, it also sheds it faster. Finally, I've never been a huge fan of the fit on the driver's side... it always seemed a bit crowded.

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I'm going to be removing my intake tubes soon and switching over to the two plastic ones you showed us above.

The TVT tubes require band clamps to be used on the airbox side and on the silicone tubes passing through the core support... Anytime the motor shifts on the mounts, the band clamps pull crooked and no matter how many times I've straightened them out, they go back crooked after hard driving. No doubt, I need to be investigating motor mounts soon.

Also, the TVT tubes retain heat for a much longer time than the OE plastic. The plastic is very thin, so even though it does a poorer job of insulating from heat, it also sheds it faster. Finally, I've never been a huge fan of the fit on the driver's side... it always seemed a bit crowded.

Pics to follow
shoot john i have thse tubes sitting in the shed. fwiw i wouldnt swap what you hyave for the tubes. too much disturbance in the flow. do the motor mounts and the clamps wont move. use heat wrap tape to keep the tubes kool. oh yeah that stuff is in the shed also!
 
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shoot john i have thse tubes sitting in the shed. fwiw i wouldnt swap what you hyave for the tubes. too much disturbance in the flow. do the motor mounts and the clamps wont move. use heat wrap tape to keep the tubes kool. oh yeah that stuff is in the shed also!
Exact same part number, 3" opening?

Speaking of, do you have the link to the poly mounts? Or are we still going to attempt the DIY version?
 
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Exact same part number, 3" opening?

Speaking of, do you have the link to the poly mounts? Or are we still going to attempt the DIY version?
come over dig thru the parts boxes and measure them! i was waiting on jeremy to send me some mounts to try the kit on but if it needs to be done soon we can use you for a guinea pig. as i always say.... it aint my sh&$!
 
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No doubt, I need to be investigating motor mounts soon.
This will not be fun... lol
 
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Does anyone know if part number A112 141 01 25 will work with our car? What is the difference between the 112 throttle body and 113?
 
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Does anyone know if part number A112 141 01 25 will work with our car? What is the difference between the 112 throttle body and 113?
The numbers 112 and 113 refer to the model the part was first used on.
For a detailed explanation see this thread.
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...tml#post602535
The big problem, or one of them anyway, is the fit of the connector. I'd go for the one listed and not risk it. It works so why take the risk of wasting money.
 

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