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BEGi Turbo Kit information/discussion thread

Old Sep 24, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by grip grip
I just stopped by shake the hornet's nest after hearing the kit wasn't completed yet. Just as a comparison, it took my friends shop (Stage 6 In Jacksonville, FL) two weeks to build his custom turbo kit. We're talking the Jeep arrived on day one, and by day 14 it was off the dyno and running down the strip (1o's on a stock engine).

Just saying.

By the way, he told me he was interested in building a kit for the Crossfire. His name is Harrison. Maybe someone should give him a call.

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Send a PM to Bjames! He wants his tubo NOW.. LOL
 
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
My thing is, do I want to pay a ton more a year (extra coverage + increase in power/danger) to have a percentage I paid covered? Or not pay extra and roll the dice for a couple years.... I think it would at least be worth it to kick it over with them.
Ask them what it would cost *if* you modded it like that and see what they say. For my $3,000+ wheels on another car, they added something like $37 every six months, very low IMO.

It may be worth it, may not, but at least ask the question.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUpXFire
Ask them what it would cost *if* you modded it like that and see what they say. For my $3,000+ wheels on another car, they added something like $37 every six months, very low IMO.

It may be worth it, may not, but at least ask the question.

$40-50 extra every six months would be perfect. Ill definately be talking to them about it.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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Have they even started tuning this setup yet? Or are they still in the rough-fitment phase?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2012 | 04:45 PM
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Have they even started tuning this setup yet? Or are they still in the rough-fitment phase?

I think they are cleaning it all up and making it look all perrrty now. Not sure though, hopefully we will get an update soon.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2012 | 03:55 AM
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It would really be nice if we could get some real info and updates on this project. I get my email saying new posting to these thread and all it is members fighting and making stupid comment to each other. I thought that why the new thread was started because of all the crap was posted on the old one.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sive81364
It would really be nice if we could get some real info and updates on this project. I get my email saying new posting to these thread and all it is members fighting and making stupid comment to each other. I thought that why the new thread was started because of all the crap was posted on the old one.
So I checked my E-mail to find somebody posted on this thread, just to find out it was someone complaining about someone complaining. Wanting real updates of which there is no such thing.
Few examples: 3 monthes ago they said they might have the car running in 10 to 15 days, 30 days ago there was to be picture up in 10 days, there is no such thing as real updates, so we fill the void with crap. Who knows what kind of tabacco they were smoking when they made those promises.
We have lots of other thiings to talk about if you like, pictures for example tell the trutth where the build is at.
See we have about 30% of the plumbing done, what is your take on the plumbing? do you think the pipe is too low? Do you think the pipe from the intercooler should go on the outside of the radiator and into the engine compartment lsimular to cold air intake?
Hey grip grip Thanks for the information and link , found it interesting.
Yes most builders will quote you 2-4 weeks for turbo, but who is going to tune it?
What attracted me to this build was that it was going to be a kit. Whitch would not tie up my car 2-4 weeks. They had open dialoge with Kleemann, great tuners. This builder was using the cheaper Turbo and that made it more reasonable for us. There was open dialoge with LantanaTX and the forum and the builder and it made for real good input.
LantanaTX has other issuses to deal with and can't babysit us, he was a good voice of reason to the forum and kept it all together. Since he left us it has all gone for a poop.
Never in my wildest dreams did I think it could take this long from a company like Begi with a quote of 8-10 weeks.
Pee Ess I want my turbo and I want it now........
 

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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sive81364
It would really be nice if we could get some real info and updates on this project. I get my email saying new posting to these thread and all it is members fighting and making stupid comment to each other. I thought that why the new thread was started because of all the crap was posted on the old one.

We're just trying to keep the thread alive..
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Never in my wildest dreams did I think it could take this long from a company like Begi with a quote of 8-10 weeks.
Think that is the most reasonable comment I've seen you make!

Even though you refer to me as "the great defender of Corky"... believe me I'm disappointed with their lack of concern and devotion to this project. I just wonder is it a matter of R&D dollars or just a flipped "only game going" attitude about it all.

None the less the end result is the same.. wait and see per "their" schedule... soap box.. temper tantrum.. none of that is going to change what it is.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bjames
What attracted me to this build was that it was going to be a kit. Whitch would not tie up my car 2-4 weeks. They had open dialoge with Kleemann, great tuners. This builder was using the cheaper Turbo and that made it more reasonable for us.
Yeah Kleemann is out the window, sadly, as is the comfort of a big-name tuner. And I think that has to be the biggest tie-up at the moment. Ask Web3.0, the construction was a piece-o-cake. Tuning was something else entirely, and as far as I know, is still being sorted out on his car. It's running, but not "kit reliable".

BEGi won't name the tuner being used, and to date, we're not even sure if they've started the tuning process. Based on the few photos they've provided, one would assume they're still in mock-up. Ten months later.

Has anyone with skin in the game (Other than DJ and Miata) actually sought an update lately? Safe to say, patience has made a poor motivator. The current proto is DJ's 3rd Crossfire, and Miata couldn't be bothered about the snail's pace.

I realize there are fewer than 20 buying (technically zero if this thing falls flat), but there's a whole forum watching. Best case scenario, the Crossfire Limited can still be considered as a viable option for a cheap (and fast) used German coupe for years to come. Worst case, the Limited fades into history as a fun car (but a slow car) and the SRT is the only one that offers a true taste of speed. Great for my resale, but I'd really love to see the Limited redeem itself. I owned one, and loved it. And I love underdogs.

I was really hoping to hear some in action at this year's dragon meet. We're a week out, so that ain't happening. As much of a game-changer as this turbo kit is for Limiteds the world over, I'm shocked at the apathy of those in line.

I predict the next 30 posts will consist of rebuttals from MrMiata and "are we there yet...now?" posts from the rest of the forum.

Next ETA, Christmas?
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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JHM2K Yup the tuning has been on my mind. Months and months ago they said they had the tuning sorted out, then they came up with saying they were working with OBD Tuning in Hamburg and may become thier US Supplier. But we have a credibility gap, hence the saying "this builder may have the bullshit on the wrong side of his boots"
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JHM2K

I predict the next 30 posts will consist of rebuttals from MrMiata and "are we there yet...now?" posts from the rest of the forum.

Next ETA, Christmas?
Just one on your comments.. everybody is all WTF.. but I haven't seen ONE viable resolution.

I openly await to hear it.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 05:04 PM
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then they came up with saying they were working with OBD Tuning in Hamburg
And that's a name I've NEVER heard in any discussion of reputable tuners for Mercedes motors. Perhaps I'm just sheltered, but...

Brabus, Kircherer, Kleemann, Väth, Eurocharged, Inmotion, OE-Tuning --- those are the names you think of when you want your Benz motor tuned, let alone one under boost.

 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 05:09 PM
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Just one on your comments.. everybody is all WTF.. but I haven't seen ONE viable resolution.

I openly await to hear it.
Beats me. Multiple people have phoned, visited, emailed... which has been good for bi-monthly updates. A call to arms or an abandonment of the project is really the only thing left LOL.

I say we all fold our hands and keep waiting.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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I have NO skin in the game. I see a bit of Speedriven going on. The expertise is there, the end result will be quality, but who will still have a Crossfire when it's ready? Or one under 100,000 miles? Good luck guys. I only want the best for the model no matter the trim. No doubt most of the work is done and the devil is in the details.

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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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I only want the best for the model no matter the trim.

Les
^^^ This.

I wish I could snap my fingers and see the kit completed ASAP. I would genuinely love to see a six-speed Limited blowing down the 1320 with 360 under the hood. As mentioned earlier, it would be a game changer for the future of the Crossfire, in regards to being considered a serious contender with the other sport coupes on the market.

So, how do we (as a community) become their priority?
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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Beats me. Multiple people have phoned, visited, emailed... which has been good for bi-monthly updates. A call to arms or an abandonment of the project is really the only thing left LOL.

I say we all fold our hands and keep waiting.
Okay one more comment.. LOL

I honestly feel the price they have quoted is not going to allow for much if any profit. What was the initial price of a Eurocharge tune? Much less having to totally remap and rewrite code. Anybody supplying a flash for Turbo mod is going to command a premium. So basically a fleabay turbo kit is what 1500 to 2K..now throw in another grand in tuning..not much left over.
Guess I would drag my heels on a break even project myself.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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Okay one more comment.. LOL

I honestly feel the price they have quoted is not going to allow for much if any profit. What was the initial price of a Eurocharge tune? Much less having to totally remap and rewrite code. Anybody supplying a flash for Turbo mod is going to command a premium. So basically a fleabay turbo kit is what 1500 to 2K..now throw in another grand in tuning..not much left over.
Guess I would drag my heels on a break even project myself.
This is a very likely problem, and honestly I think it's what shot Speedriven in the head. They made more money by refunding the deposits and telling us to sod off.

Hopefully that isn't the case here, because it would be a hard sell to ask for an additional $1,000 from everyone at this point.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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As a business man myself, when it becomes clear that there's no, or little money to be made, I finish as fast as possible and move on or refund and move on. Hence my stance with Speedriven. I never drag out a project. It ends up costing more in so many ways. I just can't understand it. The only reason a business exists is to make money and when a mistake is made where you can't, you finish asap to limit the losses or damage and move on. You don't cross your arms until all the potential buyers die of old age or the cars are all in the junkyard. I'm pulling for you guys, even late, if a quality kit, the wait will be worth it. Unless your cars have too many miles on them to dare instal a turbo.

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Old Sep 30, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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Other than keeping a thread to a discussion rather than a name calling thread, I don't have anything in this. But, and a big but, is everyone knows from those who have tried and not succeeded, to those who have tried, and only partially succeeded, this wasn't an 8-10 week build. Never mind what you were told, no one has done it, and until someone does, it will never happen. Thus, the usual response like butt heads like me, "why not just buy an SRT6!". Well, you all told me to go.....offffff....myself more than once...lol. I think any of us who love to mod our cars want to see it happen. And if it happens, and is perfected, and is affordable, well, look out limited sales... I have been collecting, watching, learning, about how I want to mod the coupe for 2 years, yes, 24 months. I have a plan and waiting on just a few more parts and I will start. There is usually reward for those who are patient when building and modding a car...hang in there...
 
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