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steps 08-31-2015 09:29 PM

74 mm TB help !!!
 
is this the one I need?????????????

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-BOSCH-GENUINE-OEM-THROTTLE-BODY-FOR-MERCEDES-BENZ-1131410125-/121350783051?hash=item1c4112004b&vxp=mtr


need help

Thanks

onehundred80 08-31-2015 11:12 PM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by steps (Post 846605)
is this the one I need?????????????

Brand New Bosch Genuine Throttle Body for Mercedes Benz 1131410125 | eBay



need help

Thanks

Not at that price, unless you want a brand new one, it is the correct one though.
Parts for the mod are here.

steps 09-01-2015 12:32 AM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by onehundred80 (Post 846610)
Not at that price, unless you want a brand new one, it is the correct one though.
Parts for the mod are here.

where do you recommended I get one from?
I'm new here and trying to find my way around
Thanks

Mrmiata 09-01-2015 05:18 AM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by steps (Post 846616)
where do you recommended I get one from?
I'm new here and trying to find my way around
Thanks

Ebay search by P/N .. use your best judgement on condition vrs. price - warranty .. some list miles on donor car also..


A1131410125 | eBay

ala_xfire 09-01-2015 06:53 AM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 
Or car-part.com, look under 2000-2005 Mercedes 500 series. Some listings even list the part number.

Or

This one looks really nice at $48 with free shipping :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAP-W211-MERCEDES-07-09-E-CLASS-AIR-INTAKE-THROTTLE-BODY-1131410125-13-/121678807011?hash=item1c549f3fe3&vxp=mtr

maxcichon 09-01-2015 07:18 AM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 
These are the sellers I used last month:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-W220-W215-W211-R230-S500-CL500-E500-SL500-THROTTLE-BODY-1131410125-OEM-/141617605597?hash=item20f9112bdd&vxp=mtr
Clean, fast (3 days) and working....not as cheap, though!

ala_xfire 09-01-2015 07:51 AM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 
That one sho is pretty though. ( not that it matters, once installed, you can't see it ! )

Make sure to get a new O ring for the installation and clean the manifold surface real good.

steps 09-01-2015 11:47 AM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by maxcichon (Post 846622)
These are the sellers I used last month:

Mercedes W220 W215 W211 R230 S500 CL500 E500 SL500 Throttle Body 1131410125 | eBay

Clean, fast (3 days) and working....not as cheap, though!

Thanks all for the in put this is the one I went with Thanks Maxcichon.
next I have to do the install and have a tune.............Ps ordered an O ring also.............

maxcichon 09-01-2015 12:58 PM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by steps (Post 846646)
Thanks all for the in put this is the one I went with Thanks Maxcichon.
next I have to do the install and have a tune.............Ps ordered an O ring also.............

I've done this 3 times and I always replace the TB with the battery disconnected.

The ECU learns the running parameters of these. If you change it out and the ECU thinks you have an older, smaller TB in, it may have issues....like surging idle etc. until it learns the new unit.;)

If it learns the new unit after a reset (battery disconnect), it might go better....

steps 09-01-2015 02:57 PM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 
thanks I'll keep that in mind.....

onehundred80 09-01-2015 04:02 PM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by maxcichon (Post 846653)
I've done this 3 times and I always replace the TB with the battery disconnected.

The ECU learns the running parameters of these. If you change it out and the ECU thinks you have an older, smaller TB in, it may have issues....like surging idle etc. until it learns the new unit.;)

If it learns the new unit after a reset (battery disconnect), it might go better....

I changed only one and did not disconnect the battery, I had no problem at all.
If there is no power to the TB with the ignition OFF how can it learn anything different with the battery disconnected?

ala_xfire 09-01-2015 05:05 PM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 
Could it be that disconnecting the battery resets the TPS map in the PTCM ?

RED DOG 09-01-2015 06:20 PM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 
WOW! All of you forum experts jumped right on this call for help and got everything sorted out for steps within 24 hours. I wanted to at least offer him a new o-ring gasket . . . I have two of them brand new sealed in the bag that I don't need . . . But . . . no need for my superpowers here! I'm moving on to the next cry for help . . .

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/t/carto...n-42946166.jpg

maxcichon 09-02-2015 07:39 AM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by ala_xfire (Post 846682)
Could it be that disconnecting the battery resets the TPS map in the PTCM ?

And resets zero on the TB stepping motor?;)

onehundred80 09-02-2015 08:09 AM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by maxcichon (Post 846736)
And resets zero on the TB stepping motor?;)

Surely something that has sat on a shelf somewhere for god knows how long with no power to it will be reset anyway. As I said my battery was not disconnected and it ran like a Swiss watch from the moment it was started, while others had to run there car for age as to get the same result.
Who knows with these cars, what works one minute seems the wrong method the next.

ala_xfire 09-02-2015 08:30 AM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by maxcichon (Post 846736)
And resets zero on the TB stepping motor?;)

The motor has no "0", it's just a stupid stepping motor that goes one step at a time CW or CCW as commanded.
Kinda like me and the wife.
The brushes on the circuit board in the TB tell the PTCM how well it obeyed.

Travish 09-02-2015 05:04 PM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 
Put mine on with new O-ring. Did not disconnect battery. Ran perfect from start up. No "learn" necessary.

steps 09-02-2015 08:04 PM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by RED DOG (Post 846695)
WOW! All of you forum experts jumped right on this call for help and got everything sorted out for steps within 24 hours. I wanted to at least offer him a new o-ring gasket . . . I have two of them brand new sealed in the bag that I don't need . . . But . . . no need for my superpowers here! I'm moving on to the next cry for help . . .

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/t/carto...n-42946166.jpg

Thanks Red Dog for the offer I ordered a new and it's on the way but if I ordered the wrong one I'll be back
Thanks

steps 09-03-2015 12:17 PM

Re: 74 mm TB help !!!
 
Received the 74mm throttle body to day still waiting for the O ring ................


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