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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 02:45 PM
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Default Trans and diff fluid question.

Hello,

I see on the forums here that the red line full synthetic 75w90 hypoid oil recommended for the diff. It also looks like others are recommending this for the 6 speed manual transmission as well? Or am I reading this wrong.

Doing some research Pennzoil platinum and ultra Platinum oils are made from group 4 and group 5 synthetic base oils vs most full synthetic are based on varying amounts of group 3 base oils.

​​​​​​As long as the oil is 75w90 and contains friction modifiers for the diff I intend to use the Pennzoil.

However here is my question. I see that most hypoid limited slip diff oils specifically state DO NOT USE in syncromesh transmission??? Yet it appears in certain threads the redline oil is recommended for both?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 03:43 PM
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Default Re: Trans and diff fluid question.

For the diff, I used 75W90 Fully Synthetic Hypoid Gear Oil (1 Liter) - Liqui Moly LM22090.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2024 | 03:54 PM
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Yes I think my issue and what was confusing me, I confused two different red line oils. I thought that they were recommending the same for both. But redline actually recommended their gl-4 75w90 "mt-90" for the manual. And their 75w90 gl-5 or redline 75w90 gear oil. Two very different red line oils... Which I had confused as the same.

So I am considering using the Pennzoil synthetic 75w90 gl-5 full synthetic in the diff. And Mannol 75w80 mtf-4 in the trans as it meets MB 235.10 specs. Both which are quite inexpensive yet the quality is very high.
 

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Old Aug 9, 2024 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tommyb13662
Yes I think my issue and what was confusing me, I confused two different red line oils. I thought that they were recommending the same for both. But redline actually recommended their gl-4 75w90 "mt-90" for the manual. And their 75w90 gl-5 or redline 75w90 gear oil. Two very different red line oils... Which I had confused as the same.

So I am considering using the Pennzoil synthetic 75w90 gl-5 full synthetic in the diff. And Mannol 75w80 mtf-4 in the trans as it meets MB 235.10 specs. Both which are quite inexpensive yet the quality is very high.
Let me add to the confusion! LOL
For the differential I used Redline 75W85. When I did the 6 speed transmission I used Mercedes-Benz Gear Oil MB 235.10.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2024 | 02:46 PM
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Default Re: Trans and diff fluid question.

Most sources say GL-5 fluids are "too slippery" for the synchros in a manual transmission. Redline fluids with the -NS are synchro friendly.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2024 | 12:26 PM
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Do not drain diff or tranny until you can break loose the fill plugs. I replaced the 6spd oil with Pennzoil® Synchromesh, seemed like it helped a little with 1st to 2nd gear shifting
 
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Old Aug 10, 2024 | 12:53 PM
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According to what I read the gl-5 fluids are a NO-NO for syncromesh. There are soft metals in the syncromesh that the aggressive friction modifiers in gl-5 can corrode and damage. Yet the gl-4 syncromesh fluids do not provide the superior shear protection that a gl-5 for our limited slip diff oil provides.

That's why I was so confused when I thought people were using the same in both. It appears that any full synthetic gl-4 fluid is good for the 6 speed manual. And any FULL SYNTHETIC GL-5 for our limited slip diff.

Those two specs as long as full synthetic should properly lube and take care of our cars. In a pinch oil is better than no oil... Just make sure you put the proper fluids in soon.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2024 | 02:45 PM
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Default Re: Trans and diff fluid question.

Originally Posted by Tommyb13662
According to what I read the gl-5 fluids are a NO-NO for syncromesh. There are soft metals in the syncromesh that the aggressive friction modifiers in gl-5 can corrode and damage. Yet the gl-4 syncromesh fluids do not provide the superior shear protection that a gl-5 for our limited slip diff oil provides.

That's why I was so confused when I thought people were using the same in both. It appears that any full synthetic gl-4 fluid is good for the 6 speed manual. And any FULL SYNTHETIC GL-5 for our limited slip diff.

Those two specs as long as full synthetic should properly lube and take care of our cars. In a pinch oil is better than no oil... Just make sure you put the proper fluids in soon.
OEM differentials on all Crossfires are open; They are not "limited slip"
 
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