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sonoronos Mar 29, 2008 12:20 PM

Is This Why People Don't Trust Science?
 
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I just about busted out laughing this morning while reading today's New York Times, page A10. The article was about CERN's new collider. I'm interested in the subject because my father does engineering and design work for the LHC. In any case, this is an argument for hiring technically literate editors.

Is this the biggest scientific boner ever made by traditional media?

crossbowme Mar 30, 2008 06:13 AM

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I have run into this throughout my military career. Writers throw terms around casually that have very exact meanings. They don't care what the results are, in fact they like the notoriety, no matter who is hurt or great harm is done.

Luckily, as a whole, they tend to be very lazy. If you give them interesting releases they usually us it intact with no attribution. However, when writing about the past, they have to do "research" and their natural tendencies show through.

Kurts Mar 30, 2008 07:13 AM

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So much of this 'bad press' is simply because the idiot media has heard that it may be possible, at the energies the Collider can produce, to create mini-black holes which, of course, could SWALLOW THE WHOLE EARTH!
Of course, the mini-holes (that sounds dirty for some reason) wouldn't last for more than a nanosecond or so but that doesn't matter because it's particle physics, a mysterious domain for nearly every layman.
I'm mondo excited about this; maybe with this collider we can put to rest some of the true mysteries of the sub-atomic world & quantum physics.
Then again, IT COULD BE THE END OF THE WORLD:rolleyes: !

sonoronos Mar 30, 2008 07:54 AM

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Sorry guys, I think my sense of humor may be way too subtle, so I'll explain what I found funny (besides the actual lawsuit itself):

The LHC is called the "Large Hadron Collider". A Hadron is a type of subatomic particle.

If you look carefully, the New York Times article in the picture I showed misspelled Hadron as Hardon. A Hardon is....well...I'm sure you know what that is.

The idea that the Swiss would be making a "Large Hardon Collider", which when you think about it, is pretty disgusting, made me laugh.

Kurts Mar 30, 2008 08:01 AM

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No Sonoronos, your humor isn't subtle; we're just BLIND!
I can't believe I didn't spot that!
Hardon colliders.......sounds gay to me......not that there's anything wrong with that.

crossbowme Mar 30, 2008 08:58 AM

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I missed that part completely.

What interested me was the fact Konopinski was one of those who studied the possible chain reaction but most sources credit Edward Teller as the first to bring this theory forward to the Manhattan Project leadership as a real concern.

Mike-in-Orange Mar 30, 2008 11:51 AM

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I dunno, I found this bit sort of silly as well:


Mr. Sancho, wo describes himself as an author and researcher on time theory, lives in Spain, probably in Barcelona, Mr. Wagner said.
He probably lives in Barcelona? Is he some sort of fugitive? Or is there just a huge community of time theorists living in Barcelona, making this a logical assumption? A known rip in the space/time continnuum that leads directly to Barcelona, perhaps?


Apparently there's a lot wrong with this article.

Xfire fan Mar 31, 2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike-in-Orange
I dunno, I found this bit sort of silly as well:



He probably lives in Barcelona? Is he some sort of fugitive? Or is there just a huge community of time theorists living in Barcelona, making this a logical assumption? A known rip in the space/time continnuum that leads directly to Barcelona, perhaps?


Apparently there's a lot wrong with this article.

Well when he's not traveling through time to other dimensions he lives in modern day Barcelona, but he could be anywhere at anytime so he "probably lives in Barcelona", but you never know. :p

chuck65 Mar 31, 2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sonoronos
Sorry guys, I think my sense of humor may be way too subtle, so I'll explain what I found funny (besides the actual lawsuit itself):

The LHC is called the "Large Hadron Collider". A Hadron is a type of subatomic particle.

The idea that the Swiss would be making a "Large Hardon Collider", which when you think about it, is pretty disgusting, made me laugh.

Now I get it:o Takes some of us a while to catch up with you sonoronos. By the way, what's a sonoronos ?:confused:

GDC-SRT Sep 8, 2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sonoronos
Sorry guys, I think my sense of humor may be way too subtle, so I'll explain what I found funny (besides the actual lawsuit itself):

The LHC is called the "Large Hadron Collider". A Hadron is a type of subatomic particle.

If you look carefully, the New York Times article in the picture I showed misspelled Hadron as Hardon. A Hardon is....well...I'm sure you know what that is.

The idea that the Swiss would be making a "Large Hardon Collider", which when you think about it, is pretty disgusting, made me laugh.

Hang on! The sword fighting is about to begin.

Franc Rauscher Sep 8, 2008 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GDC-SRT
Hang on! The sword fighting is about to begin.

News release today, the CERN unit is up and will be tested this month.
First they plan to shoot Sub atomic particles clock wise around the loop. Then they will do it counter clockwise, all to be sure they can contain and control them.
Then, they plan to shoot both ways simultaniously and.....SEE WHAT HAPPENS!:confused:

Some say it will create mini black holes that will take about four years to be noticed and then they will swallow the earth. GEORDIE AND SCOTTY WON'T BE ABLE TO DO A DAMM THING 'CAUSE THE ENTERPRISE IS IN THE STRAIGHTS OF HORMUZ!

So, we can, once again, blame it on GW Bush.:p

17 mile loop is under Switzerland and France, I think.

Enjoy your Crossfire while you can.:rolleyes:


roadster with a stick

Brent Sep 8, 2008 09:08 PM

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So if cute little black holes are formed then the Swiss can blame the French and the French can blame the Swiss.

I"m still waiting for the next Ice Age because of *GASP* global cooling. Oh wait, now it's global warming. No doubt the planet will overheat, right after it freezes. That is if it doesn't get devoured by ill-behaved black holes first.

Large Hardon Collider........hmmm, I wonder if GM really has Pornstar installed on their vehicles.

sonoronos Sep 9, 2008 05:18 AM

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lol . .

seannon Sep 9, 2008 06:41 AM

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OMG!!! that is SOO funny!

Seannon

Jeff Cobb Sep 9, 2008 07:49 AM

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What a silly doomsday prediction - little black holes !!

What's really going to happen is that a trans-dimensional gate will open up and allow Cthulu & Yog Soggoth to emerge and eat the Earth. :rolleyes:

Bigkid Sep 9, 2008 08:35 AM

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Got it on the first read, cracked up!

PhillySRT Sep 9, 2008 09:03 AM

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The naysayers are all just really afraid that these experiments will attract the Borg. They're just too embarrased to say it.

Fired UP Sep 9, 2008 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillySRT
The naysayers are all just really afraid that these experiments will attract the Borg. They're just too embarrased to say it.

Philly...Your killen me.
Bush is a BORG,,,, that is just freaken inspired!!!!!

rodimus Sep 9, 2008 09:39 AM

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Well if they do create black holes at least they've created a hardon to fill them with....:D

Franc Rauscher Sep 9, 2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillySRT
The naysayers are all just really afraid that these experiments will attract the Borg. They're just too embarrased to say it.

Philly,
Why do you always have to bring politics in to it. :p

Never catch me doing it.:rolleyes:

roadster with a stick


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