Aren't SRT4's faster than our NA's?
 

Last nite I had an Srt4 Neon offer to play. Now I have been given the uderstanding that they were quicker than our NA's and frankly on a city four lane street, I wasn't that interested.

But the guy kept falling back and then goosing forward. We came to a stoplight and the other side was rather vacant and relatively safe. So, I obliged. His launch was better but by second we were even and then by third he gave up. A mile later he wanted to try again from a roll of about 20 MPH. Now we were on open highway so I let fly, again he fell behind.

Either he couldn't drive, wouldn't push it or his car had issues.

Or are we faster?

Guys?


roadster with a stick

Re: Aren't SRT4's faster than our NA's?
 

Bone stock, they run mid 5-second 0-60 and mid-to-high 13's in the 1/4.

Modded, they can be monsters.

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Perhaps he was a stage one set up with lots of stickon's for his ego.

I know the stage three setups are mean. He had the big pipes and the sound.

Maybe he just wanted to give the old man in the "wussie" car a smile?:rolleyes:

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modded, they ARE monsters....

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As a street racer from waaaay back, sounds like he was sand bagging, hoping that he could lure you into a money race. Surprised he didn't try to flag you over.
I had a 440 '69 Charger that took guaranteed $500 from a would be race just for me to open the hood. I made some decent money from that car.
For the record I think racing needs to be done on a closed track.

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Actually hadn't thought ofthat. iseriously don't street race much. But I am inclined from time to time when conditions seem safe and OK.

Had he done that I would have gone home for Crumpy's SRT6. And before Rad explains the law to me, I would have offered to meet at a track.

Then we could both go fullout without worry of involving an innocent by stander.

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Could be having issues - a lot of kids modding and using only the "street kills" / butt dyno really mess things up (especially on FI cars) and then never notice.

Or he just wanted to keep your car in view to look at it ;)

Bone stock on both, in a straight line, on a street I'd pretty much favor the SRT-4 with a reasonable (not great) driver in both cars, so it does seem weird that you won. I wouldn't be playing too much with SRT-4s if you're looking to win.

The SRT-4 is actually a pretty good car, from the few I've been in - decent interior, lighter than the Crossfire, a quite surprisingly good suspension leading to some decent handling, and easy to bolt-on into a rocket (to the extent the front wheels can handle). I really do think they fall down in the exterior department though, especially the headlights - not pretty in my book. I sure wouldn't own one (I vastly prefer RWD cars, and I don't really like the "ricer car" aspect) but they're definitely a respectable ride.

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Franc, you need to sneek out to the drags one night...hangin' out with all the kids that are racing is a blast. It brings back your youth when we use to do those things...I am just amazed some nights what these kids, and I am saying kids up to their 30's, lol....are getting out of their little cars...the most amazing is the diesel pickups...they will clean your clock as quick as anyone...some are running low 11's w/ 4" lift kits, 4 wheel drive...right when you think you are fast...lol

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Unfortunately, the Tracks around here are getting as scarce as my time.

Gateway, where we played last June at the CA is closing. The proposed track in Eolia MO has been voted down. Local residents don't like the sound pollution and so they object. Several racetracks have suffered public outcry and also succumbedto themarket forces of increase property values and taxes. Later the local complain cause the kids are racing down the public streets.

Like they had somewhere else to go?

I hear you about the little diesels. Proving the point that if you strap on enough horsepower, you can make a brick fly.

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Damn Franc, You're going to make everyone think us "Old Guy's" can't be trusted.:p

I remember my Brother telling me about some guy he knew who ordered two identical looking black 63 Dodges. One had a 383 hi-po, and the other one was a steel fendered Max Wedge.
He would "sucker" guys into racing him for cash at the local drive-ins, and tell them he had to run home to put his "cheater slicks" on and would be right back. When he came back driving his "Ringer" with the factory dumps open, it was too late for the "marks" to back out.
My Brother said he made enough money to pay for that car in two summers of racing.
Good Times:rolleyes:

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E tu Brute'? I get enough of that on the politcs forum.

I think you are assuming my dishonesty unfairly. I simply would not have accepted a challenge in my NA but would have offered to race, fairly matched, with the SRT6. Anything else would be "cheating"

Not saying a thing about the mods of course, as likely would he until we were done foolin'.

That said there is always a desire by some to create a sleeper and win a few matches.

My '56 Pontiac looked like a Grandmas sedan but weighed no more than a 56 Chevy and had more horses. Bored to 362 CI with a four barrel Rochester carb it presented it's backside well to the unaware competition.:rolleyes:

I guess that was dishonest but I never made money on it. Just laughs.:D

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My experience on the street is the "win" most often goes to the person with the biggest balls ( or the one most willing to take foolish risks), rather than the person with the fastest car.

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This......

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Thats why its street racing !!! You never know what your up against or whos going to win !!! Im out on the hunt when its safe & clear just like I was when I was 16 !!! Lov the street light to light racing !!! Always have alsways will !!!!

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our old srt4n went into the 12's with $800 in mods (still stage 0)

we then added stage 2 with a few more tweaks got it over 400 ft/lbs of torque on the stock turbo.

yes he should have left you behind, either his was jacked up/can't drive or sandbagging you.

there are a few srt4n in the 9's and a bunch of them in the 10's, don't race them for $$$

btw, i don't think there is a bone stock srt4n left on the planet!

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SRT4N in the 9's, can you say torque steer?!

I'd love to see some comparison drives of SRT4N v. Crossfire on a road track - the SRT4N does seem to handle pretty damn well but it'd be fun to see if some twisties even things out.

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Srt-4's can easily be faster than srt-6's. So im not sure how your na beat one. U know there was a srt Aero package available on the regular neons. Perhaps a bad driver. Also, these cars are known to run like crap if they are in the wrong hands.

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neons arent really a "rice burner", they can be beast if done right.. stay safe out on the street though

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They might not inherently be a 'rice burner' but with most of the mods that folks who own them install (or stick on) they get riced a majority of the time. It is a rare I see a very nice example, I am not saying they are not out there, but I think most of them get bastardized.

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Even a stage one SRT4 Neon should be able to take an NA Stock to Stock. I am a bit over stock with 197HP at ATW which might give me a chance against a bad driiver.
I suspect he was a "virgin" who didn't know how to use "it" yet. Or, as has been suggested, he simply was trying to Bait/tease me into a money race.

I do disagree with the concept that an SRT6 couldn't hold their own. Quarter mile yeah,maybe, which is what was Implied/referenced. But street racing doesn't do quarter miles. A Neon may do 160 MPH but would you want to be in one that was?