Saginaw Valley Region Event (Sat. Aug 21) & Det SCCA (Au
I know many of you use the Autoevents site!
but if not I thought I should post on here about the upcoming AutoXing events that will be going on soon in Michigan!
Hosting Organization(s) Saginaw Valley Region SCCA
Event Type Autocross / Solo2
Event Date(s) 21-Aug-2004
Event Description/
Schedule Registration 9-10:30
Tech 9:15-10:45
Novice Walk 10:45
Drivers Meeting 11:00
First Car Off 11:15
Event Location Great Lakes Tech Center
City Flint
State or Province MI
Postal/Zip Code 48501
Country US
Location Description
Driving Directions Located off I-475 South of I-69
From the South:
Exit at Bristol Rd.
Cross Bristol and continue northbound on Grand Traverse
Turn Right on Hmphill Rd.
Event site at northeast corner of Hemphill and Grand Traverse
Maximum Entries 200
Registration Deadline 19-Aug-2004
Right up near my place!
So I will be definately heading to this one! FFFFFFlint town
Hosting Organization(s) Detroit Region SCCA
Event Type Autocross / Solo2
Event Date(s) 22-Aug-2004
Event Description/
Schedule Schedule:
Registration opens at 7:30, closes at 9:00
Novice course walk: 8:30
Driver's Meeting: 9:15
First Car off: 9:30
We run rain or shine!!
Entry Fees:
SCCA and Detroit Council Members Pre-Registered $30
Others Pre-Registered $35
Registered after Sunday, August 15th $40
FJ Carts $15
REGISTER EARLY!
Entries are limited to 200 - on a first come first serve basis. Pre-register now for another great event at the Silverdome!! Once again, we will be making a donation to the Michigan Humane Society from the proceeds along with donations from other sponsors to be announced.
Your registration will be confirmed when your payment has been received. Pre-paid entries are entitled to the price break; all entry fees received after August 15th or at the event site will be $40 - No Exceptions.
Mail In Registration:
Please complete the entry form online, select the mail-in entry fee option, and then send a check (made payable to Detroit Region SCCA) to the Detroit Region Solo2 Registrar:
Steve Couture
SCCA Solo2 Registrar - Dog Days
3001 Grouse
Wixom, MI 48393
If you are under 18; Competitor waivers MUST be signed by BOTH parents. Contact the Registrar to have one sent, so that you can bring it with you to the competition. This will be valid with both parents signature as long as one parent is present. Minor spectators only require one signature. Yearly minor waivers still need both parents' signatures.
CAR NUMBERS:
Please prepare car numbers and class letters before the event. Masking tape and shoe polish numbers make it difficult to the timing crew to identify you and your times may not be recorded.
Event Location Pontiac Silverdome - Enter off Opdyke
City Pontiac
State or Province MI
Postal/Zip Code 48340
Maximum Entries 200
Registration Deadline 17-Aug-2004
Hosting Organization(s) Saginaw Valley Region SCCA
Event Type Autocross / Solo2
Event Date(s) 21-Aug-2004
Event Description/
Schedule Registration 9-10:30
Tech 9:15-10:45
Novice Walk 10:45
Drivers Meeting 11:00
First Car Off 11:15
Event Location Great Lakes Tech Center
City Flint
State or Province MI
Postal/Zip Code 48501
Country US
Location Description
Driving Directions Located off I-475 South of I-69
From the South:
Exit at Bristol Rd.
Cross Bristol and continue northbound on Grand Traverse
Turn Right on Hmphill Rd.
Event site at northeast corner of Hemphill and Grand Traverse
Maximum Entries 200
Registration Deadline 19-Aug-2004
Right up near my place!
Hosting Organization(s) Detroit Region SCCA
Event Type Autocross / Solo2
Event Date(s) 22-Aug-2004
Event Description/
Schedule Schedule:
Registration opens at 7:30, closes at 9:00
Novice course walk: 8:30
Driver's Meeting: 9:15
First Car off: 9:30
We run rain or shine!!
Entry Fees:
SCCA and Detroit Council Members Pre-Registered $30
Others Pre-Registered $35
Registered after Sunday, August 15th $40
FJ Carts $15
REGISTER EARLY!
Entries are limited to 200 - on a first come first serve basis. Pre-register now for another great event at the Silverdome!! Once again, we will be making a donation to the Michigan Humane Society from the proceeds along with donations from other sponsors to be announced.
Your registration will be confirmed when your payment has been received. Pre-paid entries are entitled to the price break; all entry fees received after August 15th or at the event site will be $40 - No Exceptions.
Mail In Registration:
Please complete the entry form online, select the mail-in entry fee option, and then send a check (made payable to Detroit Region SCCA) to the Detroit Region Solo2 Registrar:
Steve Couture
SCCA Solo2 Registrar - Dog Days
3001 Grouse
Wixom, MI 48393
If you are under 18; Competitor waivers MUST be signed by BOTH parents. Contact the Registrar to have one sent, so that you can bring it with you to the competition. This will be valid with both parents signature as long as one parent is present. Minor spectators only require one signature. Yearly minor waivers still need both parents' signatures.
CAR NUMBERS:
Please prepare car numbers and class letters before the event. Masking tape and shoe polish numbers make it difficult to the timing crew to identify you and your times may not be recorded.
Event Location Pontiac Silverdome - Enter off Opdyke
City Pontiac
State or Province MI
Postal/Zip Code 48340
Maximum Entries 200
Registration Deadline 17-Aug-2004
Good idea Boba.... Let's get as many Crossfires as we can out there autocrossing!!!
Then maybe the tire companies will start building performance tires for 19" wheels.
lol!
Will do... im gonna get some PS2... cuz these Conti's are shot... and I've only raced on them once! ... they are just wearing down HORRIBLE!!!
no news though on tires our sizes?
I know im looking at different lighter weight rims right now... and when I do the switch id like to put on new tires to those new rims also... have only came up with a hand full of decent looking rims on the Xfire
I know im looking at different lighter weight rims right now... and when I do the switch id like to put on new tires to those new rims also... have only came up with a hand full of decent looking rims on the Xfire
I'll be there Sunday, but not Saturday. Bobafettm, FYI, these events run rain or shine...
For Saginaw, tell them you want to be in DS Novice. You can register on race day.
Detroit, you will register in TDS. You must register online. They really don't like race day registration because they have the run heat all planned.
For Saginaw, tell them you want to be in DS Novice. You can register on race day.
Detroit, you will register in TDS. You must register online. They really don't like race day registration because they have the run heat all planned.
Wheew! Got ya Land!
Thanks again for all the help! its been an enormous help! ... At Saginaw all the Project A Spec guys will be out there... I've been talking to them on their forum about SCCA... Remember that 180sx and the Camo Hatchback... those guys run a lot of the SCCA's so im sure ill see them at both also!
did you get those wheels on the Xfire?!!? I wanta see some pics!
did you get those wheels on the Xfire?!!? I wanta see some pics!
Originally Posted by Dan Root
Try Goodyear F1s.Rated very high.
Originally Posted by Dan Root
Beware of lightweight rims.
Dan, the Good Years are fine for a direct replacement for the PS2s as a street tire. But, like the PS2s aren't as good as a R compound tire for competitive driving. R compound rubber is softer and designed for maximum grip. They win races not mileage contests.
Looks like im ordering the TSW Rims + some Pilots tomorrow hopefully! Not to sure when ill have them by! but hopefully for the next two Crossing events!!!
Originally Posted by BobaFettm
Looks like im ordering the TSW Rims + some Pilots tomorrow hopefully!
Here are the SCCA rules for classes.
I bolded the section regarding wheel size.
Solo II Car Classifications
This is derived from portions of the 2003 & 2004 National SCCA Solo Rules (Copyright Sports Car Club of America 2004; all rights reserved).
It is believed to be correct, but any questions should be referred to the official rules as published by the SCCA. Buy your own copy! It has been provided to help you new (and veteran) solo drivers to determine the class in which your car will run, then check out what you're up against!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have rules questions,
Click to email Doug Gill, SCCA Solo Technical Manager, at solotech@scca.com
Your webmaster does not have special authority or knowledge about the rules. And he gets cranky if he believes you have not read the rules first. Contact me if the page does not work.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Complete text of SCCA Solo I & II Car Classification Rules,
(Sections 12-14, Appendices A, H, I, and K)
Appendix A: Prolog to Car Class Lists
Stock Category sorted by Class | by Make
Street Prepared Category sorted by Class | by Make
Street Touring Class Rules
Prepared Category by Class (SCCA has removed these):
Street Modified Class Rules
Modified Category sorted by Class (SCCA has removed these)
Stock, Street Touring, Street Prepared, or Street Modified?
Cars must either be specifically classified in the official lists or must have been
series-produced
street-legal automobiles
built in quantities of 1000 or more per 12 month period and
normally sold at US dealers
to be eligible to run in Stock or Street Prepared categories. Street Touring and Street Mod Category Rules do not specify these restrictions, but most or all eligible cars will meet them.
If your car does not meet these criteria, it might be classified in the modified category, or may be eligible to run only in regional open classes (e.g. SFR's Open Street Prepared). If it does, the information below can help you classify your car. Consult the SCCA Solo I & II Rules for details of the differences between the Categories.
Stock
As a rough guide, if your car has modifications beyond this list it is not eligible for Stock Category:
Anything available on the exact model and year of your car as standard or optional equipment, as installed on the factory assembly line (nothing available only dealer-installed is allowed), plus
Standard OEM identical replacement parts
Accessories, gauges, appearance, comfort, and convenience items (not replacement driver's seat, though) that basically don't help
Added roll bar or roll cage to spec (not required, though)
Driver harness (no cutting seats to install, though)
Trailer hitch and/or tow bar mountings
Any wheel of diameter and width identical to a stock or factory optional wheel, offset within +- 0.25 inch
Most street legal tires that will fit the mounted wheels and stock bodywork
Any shock absorber of the same type and mounting as original; no change to standard spring mountings is allowed; suspension geometry may not be altered; gas or hydraulic shocks are permitted
Any brake linings; pre-1992 cars may use solid/braided metal brake lines.
Any front anti-roll bar (no change to stock/optional rear anti-roll bar, if present)
Manufacturer specified ignition settings only
Any replacement air filter element (or removal of air filter element); no plumbing changes, however
Engine bored no more than .020"; no balancing or porting/polishing of head
Replacement of any part of the exhaust system past the catalytic converter (if quiet)
Any oil filter
Added clutch scattershield
Street Touring - S
If your car is a normally aspirated sedan (four seats, four factory seatbelts, not sports-car derived) of 3.1 Liters or less, or one of a few small turbocharged cars specified in the rules, and perhaps prepared further than allowed in Stock Category, it may be eligible for one of the Street Touring Classes. Street Touring - S is an SCCA National class, but Street Touring-R is an optional Regional only class. Street Touring allows anything allowed in Stock, plus (roughly) these modifications:
Any shocks, struts, and springs, using original attachment points
Any sway bars
Any wheels up to 7.5" in width that fit over stock brakes
Tires up to and including a width of 225, with a treadwear rating of 140 or greater.
Strut bars/braces as allowed in Street Prepared.
Exhaust system downstream of catalytic converter(s)
Short throw shift kits
Spoilers, body kits, rear wings, etc.
Pedal kits and other interior cosmetic accessories
Alternate brakes pads and linings
Any fully padded and upholstered front seats with reclining seat backs
Removal of factory trim (rub strips, emblems)
Alternate steering wheels of any diameter, otherwise meeting Stock rules
Cross drilled and/or slotted brake rotors
Alternate air cleaner enclosures
No limited slip differentials except factory viscous coupler type units
Stock brake calipers/drums
Fenders may not be cut or flared (but specific modifications for tires OK)
Emission-legal headers
Emission legal modifications to Engine management system, either electronic or mehanical, but not both.
Engine and transmission must remain unmodified, including emissions equipment
Street Touring - R
For 2002, Street Touring - R has been replaced by ST-X, below. Local regions may continue to support ST-R, or any other possible class, if they wish, however.
Street Touring - X
Same limitations as Street Touring - S, but generally allows cars up to 5 liters or 2 liters turbo- or supercharged, with Limited Slip Differential, and certain other extensions.
Street Modified
Street Modified is a pretty free-for-all class that is a full National class in 2002. For streetable sedans, expands eligible vehicles and modifications above Street Touring, above Steet Prepared, and perhaps even above Prepared category.
All Street Prepared modifications are allowed, plus
Unrestricted modification of engine, drive train, and suspension, and some other modifications, as long as the car uses highway fuels.
Street Modified 2
Street Modified 2 is a new optional Regional class beginning in 2002. It has similar rules to SM, but allows 2-seater cars, and cars too light or small to qualify for SM.
Street Prepared and Beyond...
More vehicles and different changes are allowed in Street Prepared, but major modification will put you in the Prepared or even a Modified category; consult the rules for details.
Solo II Car Classifications
This is derived from portions of the 2003 & 2004 National SCCA Solo Rules (Copyright Sports Car Club of America 2004; all rights reserved).
It is believed to be correct, but any questions should be referred to the official rules as published by the SCCA. Buy your own copy! It has been provided to help you new (and veteran) solo drivers to determine the class in which your car will run, then check out what you're up against!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you have rules questions,
Click to email Doug Gill, SCCA Solo Technical Manager, at solotech@scca.com
Your webmaster does not have special authority or knowledge about the rules. And he gets cranky if he believes you have not read the rules first. Contact me if the page does not work.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Complete text of SCCA Solo I & II Car Classification Rules,
(Sections 12-14, Appendices A, H, I, and K)
Appendix A: Prolog to Car Class Lists
Stock Category sorted by Class | by Make
Street Prepared Category sorted by Class | by Make
Street Touring Class Rules
Prepared Category by Class (SCCA has removed these):
Street Modified Class Rules
Modified Category sorted by Class (SCCA has removed these)
Stock, Street Touring, Street Prepared, or Street Modified?
Cars must either be specifically classified in the official lists or must have been
series-produced
street-legal automobiles
built in quantities of 1000 or more per 12 month period and
normally sold at US dealers
to be eligible to run in Stock or Street Prepared categories. Street Touring and Street Mod Category Rules do not specify these restrictions, but most or all eligible cars will meet them.
If your car does not meet these criteria, it might be classified in the modified category, or may be eligible to run only in regional open classes (e.g. SFR's Open Street Prepared). If it does, the information below can help you classify your car. Consult the SCCA Solo I & II Rules for details of the differences between the Categories.
Stock
As a rough guide, if your car has modifications beyond this list it is not eligible for Stock Category:
Anything available on the exact model and year of your car as standard or optional equipment, as installed on the factory assembly line (nothing available only dealer-installed is allowed), plus
Standard OEM identical replacement parts
Accessories, gauges, appearance, comfort, and convenience items (not replacement driver's seat, though) that basically don't help
Added roll bar or roll cage to spec (not required, though)
Driver harness (no cutting seats to install, though)
Trailer hitch and/or tow bar mountings
Any wheel of diameter and width identical to a stock or factory optional wheel, offset within +- 0.25 inch
Most street legal tires that will fit the mounted wheels and stock bodywork
Any shock absorber of the same type and mounting as original; no change to standard spring mountings is allowed; suspension geometry may not be altered; gas or hydraulic shocks are permitted
Any brake linings; pre-1992 cars may use solid/braided metal brake lines.
Any front anti-roll bar (no change to stock/optional rear anti-roll bar, if present)
Manufacturer specified ignition settings only
Any replacement air filter element (or removal of air filter element); no plumbing changes, however
Engine bored no more than .020"; no balancing or porting/polishing of head
Replacement of any part of the exhaust system past the catalytic converter (if quiet)
Any oil filter
Added clutch scattershield
Street Touring - S
If your car is a normally aspirated sedan (four seats, four factory seatbelts, not sports-car derived) of 3.1 Liters or less, or one of a few small turbocharged cars specified in the rules, and perhaps prepared further than allowed in Stock Category, it may be eligible for one of the Street Touring Classes. Street Touring - S is an SCCA National class, but Street Touring-R is an optional Regional only class. Street Touring allows anything allowed in Stock, plus (roughly) these modifications:
Any shocks, struts, and springs, using original attachment points
Any sway bars
Any wheels up to 7.5" in width that fit over stock brakes
Tires up to and including a width of 225, with a treadwear rating of 140 or greater.
Strut bars/braces as allowed in Street Prepared.
Exhaust system downstream of catalytic converter(s)
Short throw shift kits
Spoilers, body kits, rear wings, etc.
Pedal kits and other interior cosmetic accessories
Alternate brakes pads and linings
Any fully padded and upholstered front seats with reclining seat backs
Removal of factory trim (rub strips, emblems)
Alternate steering wheels of any diameter, otherwise meeting Stock rules
Cross drilled and/or slotted brake rotors
Alternate air cleaner enclosures
No limited slip differentials except factory viscous coupler type units
Stock brake calipers/drums
Fenders may not be cut or flared (but specific modifications for tires OK)
Emission-legal headers
Emission legal modifications to Engine management system, either electronic or mehanical, but not both.
Engine and transmission must remain unmodified, including emissions equipment
Street Touring - R
For 2002, Street Touring - R has been replaced by ST-X, below. Local regions may continue to support ST-R, or any other possible class, if they wish, however.
Street Touring - X
Same limitations as Street Touring - S, but generally allows cars up to 5 liters or 2 liters turbo- or supercharged, with Limited Slip Differential, and certain other extensions.
Street Modified
Street Modified is a pretty free-for-all class that is a full National class in 2002. For streetable sedans, expands eligible vehicles and modifications above Street Touring, above Steet Prepared, and perhaps even above Prepared category.
All Street Prepared modifications are allowed, plus
Unrestricted modification of engine, drive train, and suspension, and some other modifications, as long as the car uses highway fuels.
Street Modified 2
Street Modified 2 is a new optional Regional class beginning in 2002. It has similar rules to SM, but allows 2-seater cars, and cars too light or small to qualify for SM.
Street Prepared and Beyond...
More vehicles and different changes are allowed in Street Prepared, but major modification will put you in the Prepared or even a Modified category; consult the rules for details.
Originally Posted by landho
If you are serious about doing lots more autoX, consider getting a rule book (about $20) which says what mods puts you in what class. That may help you decide about what to mod...
I see my lighting wont adjust me to "STREET RACING RICER!!" Category... so im happy about that... lol
but thats for the rules Land! I'll read them carefully! and thanks Wes for the wheel segment!
yea...lighting won't make your car faster...so the rule techies don't care...unless the neons pop and create a jet-like effect which causes your car to ROCKET down the straights....killing all cones in sight... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bet you're wishing for an autoCross event at night... :wink:
Bet you're wishing for an autoCross event at night... :wink:
LOL!! thats awesome!!
See... this is what I was thinking Land... If I just make a REALLY BRIGHT lighting system.. I can blind all the on lookers.. and the judges... and just fly OC right through the course in like 20 seconds
... and pull off a stunning time!!!
You said your headed to a training school this weekend? lucky... I really wanted to do the race at Waterford but I go shafted because of Final Exams on Monday!!! ICK!
See... this is what I was thinking Land... If I just make a REALLY BRIGHT lighting system.. I can blind all the on lookers.. and the judges... and just fly OC right through the course in like 20 seconds
You said your headed to a training school this weekend? lucky... I really wanted to do the race at Waterford but I go shafted because of Final Exams on Monday!!! ICK!
WOOT!!!! The Autocrossing in Flint was a GREAT victory for me!
I did some great times!!!
62.956...61.713....59.396....60.645
Even with my HORRID WHEELS!!!! I'm sliding all over the place... but this course was more my style! Very open, few straights, and lots of sharp turns!! The Crossfire did very well other then me making it look like a drift course! I pulled in VERY SOLID times !!!
I was extremely impressed and I did very well over all! I know with two under my belt .. I shouldnt be an embarressment to Ted tomorrow in the Silverdome!!
I just hope to run near his times! Even with my stupid Conti's....
62.956...61.713....59.396....60.645
Even with my HORRID WHEELS!!!! I'm sliding all over the place... but this course was more my style! Very open, few straights, and lots of sharp turns!! The Crossfire did very well other then me making it look like a drift course! I pulled in VERY SOLID times !!!
Congrat.s Derek. The more seat time you get the better you will get.
Posting your times is great to show your improvement from run to run, but it really doesn't tell much else without the times of other cars to compare your time to.
But the point of the whole thing is to have fun and it looks like you've got that part nailed!
Keep up the good work!!!
Posting your times is great to show your improvement from run to run, but it really doesn't tell much else without the times of other cars to compare your time to.
Keep up the good work!!!
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