Strange things after new SKREEM install
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Re: Strange things after new SKREEM install
Hey Pizzaguy,
I overnight-ed a new part from RockAuto and installed it today. Nothing has changed other then the same thing as the last new part. The dummy light has gone off yet I still have no brake lights, no 3rd brake light either and the ABS and BAS-ESP light are still on. Any new ideas or am I screwed?
I think I checked every fuse on the car at his point!
Im sorry to say this car is losing its luster...really fast!..I attached a picture of the car in case anyone wanted to see the culprit. It has been well cared for with really low miles which is why this pisses me off even more!
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I overnight-ed a new part from RockAuto and installed it today. Nothing has changed other then the same thing as the last new part. The dummy light has gone off yet I still have no brake lights, no 3rd brake light either and the ABS and BAS-ESP light are still on. Any new ideas or am I screwed?
I think I checked every fuse on the car at his point!
Im sorry to say this car is losing its luster...really fast!..I attached a picture of the car in case anyone wanted to see the culprit. It has been well cared for with really low miles which is why this pisses me off even more!
Troy
Just a wild guess, but since you replaced the brake switch, did you check (recheck) the fuses? Like I said, just a shot in the dark. .
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Hi GraphiteGhost,
Yep...I checked them again today after the new switch install just for ***** and giggles. I'm just hoping to get lucky with something stupid but to no avail. I just dont get it. Never had any issues at all, ever, never...and now all this crap. I'm wondering if it was the dealer who did something when they where messing around. I know they had that huge box of wires out next to the battery looking at the soldering on that board but it looked perfect. Could they have ruined a wire in that mess of wires somewhere?
They claim it couldn't be related to that but I dont know!....and how the hell is the dummy light "now" out when it should be on....right?...I mean I have lights not working..
Troy
Yep...I checked them again today after the new switch install just for ***** and giggles. I'm just hoping to get lucky with something stupid but to no avail. I just dont get it. Never had any issues at all, ever, never...and now all this crap. I'm wondering if it was the dealer who did something when they where messing around. I know they had that huge box of wires out next to the battery looking at the soldering on that board but it looked perfect. Could they have ruined a wire in that mess of wires somewhere?
They claim it couldn't be related to that but I dont know!....and how the hell is the dummy light "now" out when it should be on....right?...I mean I have lights not working..
Troy
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Hi GraphiteGhost,
Yep...I checked them again today after the new switch install just for ***** and giggles. I'm just hoping to get lucky with something stupid but to no avail. I just dont get it. Never had any issues at all, ever, never...and now all this crap. I'm wondering if it was the dealer who did something when they where messing around. I know they had that huge box of wires out next to the battery looking at the soldering on that board but it looked perfect. Could they have ruined a wire in that mess of wires somewhere?
They claim it couldn't be related to that but I dont know!....and how the hell is the dummy light "now" out when it should be on....right?...I mean I have lights not working..
Troy
Yep...I checked them again today after the new switch install just for ***** and giggles. I'm just hoping to get lucky with something stupid but to no avail. I just dont get it. Never had any issues at all, ever, never...and now all this crap. I'm wondering if it was the dealer who did something when they where messing around. I know they had that huge box of wires out next to the battery looking at the soldering on that board but it looked perfect. Could they have ruined a wire in that mess of wires somewhere?
They claim it couldn't be related to that but I dont know!....and how the hell is the dummy light "now" out when it should be on....right?...I mean I have lights not working..
Troy
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Hey OneHundred...
If I posted everything I'm afraid it be a novel so I try to keep it to relevant facts. I know everyone here is busy.
It spent a week at the dealer who did nothing other than look in there on day 7 and say it would be $2k to fix but they weren't sure what to fix and if they could get parts. It was comical at best and I figure Id leave it out of this conversation but if its relevant Ill be happy to give details although that's about it.
I will check the fuses with a test light and also check the RCM again but I'm not a mechanic so I'm not sure what I'm looking for! I did look at the fuses on the RCM. They looked fine but again, didnt use a test light. IS there anything else I should check. The dealer just checked the solder joints because I told them to and I was unable to get to the car. I sent hem a YouTube video of how to pull it out and look. I hope there isnt anything they could have screwed up. Its not rocket science from the look of it.
Troy
If I posted everything I'm afraid it be a novel so I try to keep it to relevant facts. I know everyone here is busy.
It spent a week at the dealer who did nothing other than look in there on day 7 and say it would be $2k to fix but they weren't sure what to fix and if they could get parts. It was comical at best and I figure Id leave it out of this conversation but if its relevant Ill be happy to give details although that's about it.
I will check the fuses with a test light and also check the RCM again but I'm not a mechanic so I'm not sure what I'm looking for! I did look at the fuses on the RCM. They looked fine but again, didnt use a test light. IS there anything else I should check. The dealer just checked the solder joints because I told them to and I was unable to get to the car. I sent hem a YouTube video of how to pull it out and look. I hope there isnt anything they could have screwed up. Its not rocket science from the look of it.
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Hey OneHundred...
If I posted everything I'm afraid it be a novel so I try to keep it to relevant facts. I know everyone here is busy.
It spent a week at the dealer who did nothing other than look in there on day 7 and say it would be $2k to fix but they weren't sure what to fix and if they could get parts. It was comical at best and I figure Id leave it out of this conversation but if its relevant Ill be happy to give details although that's about it.
I will check the fuses with a test light and also check the RCM again but I'm not a mechanic so I'm not sure what I'm looking for! I did look at the fuses on the RCM. They looked fine but again, didnt use a test light. IS there anything else I should check. The dealer just checked the solder joints because I told them to and I was unable to get to the car. I sent hem a YouTube video of how to pull it out and look. I hope there isnt anything they could have screwed up. Its not rocket science from the look of it.
Troy
If I posted everything I'm afraid it be a novel so I try to keep it to relevant facts. I know everyone here is busy.
It spent a week at the dealer who did nothing other than look in there on day 7 and say it would be $2k to fix but they weren't sure what to fix and if they could get parts. It was comical at best and I figure Id leave it out of this conversation but if its relevant Ill be happy to give details although that's about it.
I will check the fuses with a test light and also check the RCM again but I'm not a mechanic so I'm not sure what I'm looking for! I did look at the fuses on the RCM. They looked fine but again, didnt use a test light. IS there anything else I should check. The dealer just checked the solder joints because I told them to and I was unable to get to the car. I sent hem a YouTube video of how to pull it out and look. I hope there isnt anything they could have screwed up. Its not rocket science from the look of it.
Troy
We do not want to see a post that is so long nobody can be bothered to read, but a bullet list would be quite acceptable.
I am sure that your troubles would be over by now if we had known about what happened.
Good luck.
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Re: Strange things after new SKREEM install
Hey Onehundred...
It sat untouched at the dealer for 6 of the 7 days and I spoke to Rob at NeedsWings since I bought the SKREEM unit from him. He knew about the dealer looking at the RCM and didnt think it was related to this issue ( they took it out, looked at the solder joints and stuck it back in) so that's part of the reason I left it out of the conversation. From what I understand from reading, he knows his **** so if he said its unrelated , so be it, I left it out. Didn't want to confuse an already confusing scenario. Not exactly sure how my troubles would have been over by now but OK...
Today I'm trying new bulbs knowing its likely not that. 3rd light is out as well and my light bulb dummy light is back on today. I read on another thread that maybe the brake relay although I dont know where its at!
Troy
It sat untouched at the dealer for 6 of the 7 days and I spoke to Rob at NeedsWings since I bought the SKREEM unit from him. He knew about the dealer looking at the RCM and didnt think it was related to this issue ( they took it out, looked at the solder joints and stuck it back in) so that's part of the reason I left it out of the conversation. From what I understand from reading, he knows his **** so if he said its unrelated , so be it, I left it out. Didn't want to confuse an already confusing scenario. Not exactly sure how my troubles would have been over by now but OK...
Today I'm trying new bulbs knowing its likely not that. 3rd light is out as well and my light bulb dummy light is back on today. I read on another thread that maybe the brake relay although I dont know where its at!
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Re: Strange things after new SKREEM install
After searching the forum a bit more I found the location of the relay. Sneaky bastards....I ordered a new one. Fingers crossed. I dont hear any clicking when I press the pedal so who knows!..Nobody mentioned this so I'm not getting too excited but maybe Santa will come early...LOL
Re: Strange things after new SKREEM install
- POSSIBLE CAUSES
- FUSED IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT CIRCUIT OPEN
- BRAKE LAMP SWITCH OUTPUT CIRCUIT OPEN
- BRAKE LAMP SWITCH OUTPUT CIRCUIT SHORTED
- BRAKE LAMP SWITCH
- BRAKE LAMP RELAY
- CONTROLLER ANTILOCK BRAKE
Page 8W-51-3 shows the Rear Lighting Circuit including the 3 Brake Lights
You can find the Brake Lamp Relay in the under-hood fuse block at the driver side firewall. See page 8L-90 for removal.
Also, page 8L-91 shows that there are 2 of the 3 pin switch harness connectors that connect to the switch. Did you miss one???
You can download the Service Manual from the below link (I referenced the 2004 manual as not knowing your Crossfire year):
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ollection.html
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Hey Chooch,
I did notice the 2 connectors going to the brake lamp switch but I only have 1 connection. I dont see anything under there however mine is a 2005 so maybe I only use 1 side?..How can I verify that only one side of the plug is used on a 2005 convertible? There are no EXTRA hanging plugs/wires but maybe it got pulled up and tucked behind the gauge cluster when replacing the skreem but seems doubtful as I hadnt touched it. I'm willing to rip it apart and check if someone says I should have 2!...Who am I kidding. Im checking anyway...LOL
Ive checked the #2 fuse....Its good. replaced the relay...still nothing.
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I did notice the 2 connectors going to the brake lamp switch but I only have 1 connection. I dont see anything under there however mine is a 2005 so maybe I only use 1 side?..How can I verify that only one side of the plug is used on a 2005 convertible? There are no EXTRA hanging plugs/wires but maybe it got pulled up and tucked behind the gauge cluster when replacing the skreem but seems doubtful as I hadnt touched it. I'm willing to rip it apart and check if someone says I should have 2!...Who am I kidding. Im checking anyway...LOL
Ive checked the #2 fuse....Its good. replaced the relay...still nothing.
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Check the 2005 Service Manual to see if there is a difference (I doubt that there is, but...).
Anyone out there who has change their brake lamp switch?
Please provide feedback on the number of 3 pin connectors you found plugged into the switch.
Cheers,
Anyone out there who has change their brake lamp switch?
Please provide feedback on the number of 3 pin connectors you found plugged into the switch.
Cheers,
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Hi Guys,
I ordered a 2005 service manual to see if my brake switch should indeed have plugs on both sides since I only have one. I ripped the entire dash apart and there is no wire with a plug hanging anywhere so doubtful that's it. So I've replaced the Brake switch, the brake relay, check all fuses all after replacing the skreem unit and still have no brake lights along with ABS light being on and BAS-ESP. I'm stumped and it seems like Ive exhausted out ideas from the forum. If anyone can think of anything Id appreciate it but looks like back to the stealership!!..UGH
I ordered a 2005 service manual to see if my brake switch should indeed have plugs on both sides since I only have one. I ripped the entire dash apart and there is no wire with a plug hanging anywhere so doubtful that's it. So I've replaced the Brake switch, the brake relay, check all fuses all after replacing the skreem unit and still have no brake lights along with ABS light being on and BAS-ESP. I'm stumped and it seems like Ive exhausted out ideas from the forum. If anyone can think of anything Id appreciate it but looks like back to the stealership!!..UGH
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Hi Guys,
I ordered a 2005 service manual to see if my brake switch should indeed have plugs on both sides since I only have one. I ripped the entire dash apart and there is no wire with a plug hanging anywhere so doubtful that's it. So I've replaced the Brake switch, the brake relay, check all fuses all after replacing the skreem unit and still have no brake lights along with ABS light being on and BAS-ESP. I'm stumped and it seems like Ive exhausted out ideas from the forum. If anyone can think of anything Id appreciate it but looks like back to the stealership!!..UGH
I ordered a 2005 service manual to see if my brake switch should indeed have plugs on both sides since I only have one. I ripped the entire dash apart and there is no wire with a plug hanging anywhere so doubtful that's it. So I've replaced the Brake switch, the brake relay, check all fuses all after replacing the skreem unit and still have no brake lights along with ABS light being on and BAS-ESP. I'm stumped and it seems like Ive exhausted out ideas from the forum. If anyone can think of anything Id appreciate it but looks like back to the stealership!!..UGH
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Hi Guys,
I ordered a 2005 service manual to see if my brake switch should indeed have plugs on both sides since I only have one. I ripped the entire dash apart and there is no wire with a plug hanging anywhere so doubtful that's it. So I've replaced the Brake switch, the brake relay, check all fuses all after replacing the skreem unit and still have no brake lights along with ABS light being on and BAS-ESP. I'm stumped and it seems like Ive exhausted out ideas from the forum. If anyone can think of anything Id appreciate it but looks like back to the stealership!!..UGH
I ordered a 2005 service manual to see if my brake switch should indeed have plugs on both sides since I only have one. I ripped the entire dash apart and there is no wire with a plug hanging anywhere so doubtful that's it. So I've replaced the Brake switch, the brake relay, check all fuses all after replacing the skreem unit and still have no brake lights along with ABS light being on and BAS-ESP. I'm stumped and it seems like Ive exhausted out ideas from the forum. If anyone can think of anything Id appreciate it but looks like back to the stealership!!..UGH
You should NEVER go to a dealership for this car. PERIOD... .
Re: Strange things after new SKREEM install
"You can download the Service Manual from the below link (I referenced the 2004 manual as not knowing your Crossfire year):"
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...ollection.html