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Old Dec 2, 2013 | 11:50 PM
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So, i was checking the transmission fluid in the '05 a couple of days ago before I started the car and the fluid was all the way up the MB stick (black area). Ok, so I go out this evening with my beautiful wife, get the car good and hot, and stop in a parking lot before we go eat, and measure...guess what? The fluid was in the same spot! Over the upper mark all the way to the metal! Should I take my topsider and take out some of that fluid? Maybe the photo will explain...
 
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Old Dec 3, 2013 | 06:03 AM
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Default Re: I think it's too full...

I don't know if this will help but the level will be different depending on the temp.

  1. Verify that the vehicle is parked on a level surface.
  2. Remove locking pin (1). Remove the plate of the locking pin with a suitable tool and press out the pin remaining in the cap downwards.
  3. Remove the cap (2) from the fill tube (3).
  4. Actuate the parking brake. Start engine and let it run at idle speed in selector lever position “P”.
  5. Shift through the transmission modes several times with the vehicle stationary and the engine idling
  6. Warm up the transmission, wait at least 2 minutes and check the oil level with the engine running. Push the Special Tool 8863A (1) in up to the stop and pull out again, read off oil level, repeat if necessary.
  7. Check the transmission oil temperature. Note: The true transmission oil temperature can only be read by a scan tool in REVERSE or any forward gear position.
  8. The transmission Special Tool 8863A has indicator marks every 10mm. Determine the height of the oil level on the dipstick and using the height, the transmission temperature, and the Transmission Fluid Graph, determine if the transmission oil level is correct.
  9. Add or remove oil as necessary and recheck the oil level.
  10. Once the oil level is correct, install a new dipstick tube cap (2) and lock pin (1).
 
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Old Dec 3, 2013 | 09:42 AM
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Default Re: I think it's too full...

So are you saying that the temp may not have been right? It still seems too full, regardless.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2013 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lildaddym
So are you saying that the temp may not have been right? It still seems too full, regardless.
The secret is knowing the temperature and having the car in gear to get the oil into the lines etc.
If I recall correctly, when I checked mine there was some oil on the dip stick which disappeared when the car was in gear and thus required some topping up.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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Well, tried again this morning to get a good read on the transmission fluid situation. Started the car cold, and it seems that it's LOW. I am going to try it hot after my trip to dialysis later this morning.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2013 | 11:27 AM
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Default Re: I think it's too full...

This picture is from my 2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee, Haynes Repair Manual. My Crossfire dealer service manual indicates that the Crossfire's automatic transmission is a NAG1. The 06 Grand Cherokee Laredo (3.7L V6) that I have, and the Crossfire both use the NAG1 automatic transmission (mercedes W5A580 transmission).

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I would assume you can use the same dipstick level reading and fluid capacity since they are the same transmission. I hope this helps you with the temperature & fluid level. I converted the US units from the graph to Metric because my dipstick tool measures metric. Good luck. I hated working on a "sealed" transmission, and I still do. I serviced my Jeep tranny a few months ago and overfilled it. Its throwing a code so I need to go drain some fluid to get it down.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2013 | 11:34 AM
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I am going to carefully check again a little later...I am guessing I will need a bit. Transmission seems to shift a bit slowly, especially in 'manual' mode, but I am trying to improve my timing. Thanks for the help!
 
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