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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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I havnt been able to find any since he passed, not sure if they are available? Im thinking with Adj camber arms, Adj sway links,KMAC camber kit,Spring pads I SHOULD BE GOOD? I really dnt mind making my own stuff id rather do it myself!!
 
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Old Nov 17, 2012 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by KROSSFIRE1988
I havnt been able to find any since he passed, not sure if they are available? Im thinking with Adj camber arms, Adj sway links,KMAC camber kit,Spring pads I SHOULD BE GOOD? I really dnt mind making my own stuff id rather do it myself!!
You should be very good, pads and sway links are extra but i guess not that expensive to get just in case. And i would contact rob at needswings and ask if someone else has picked up production or anything, i suggested because i have a pair and they are very nice. As far as building them i cant help you although those pieces do look right, but i know there are those who have and hopefully they chime in. Good luck, any problems feel free to pm me because like ive said ive done the process about 10 times.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bjames
Yes I lowered just the back of mine by 3/4 of a coil. I also had to cut the rubber stopper in my shocks. Do a search, good reading, someone did a write up of how to do it. Good luck
Here is my write up if it will help you out any...

https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...5-srt-6-a.html
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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Any input on how low the front can go and not have major rubbing issues? Im not to worried about full turn rubbing as long as i can drive n turn i dnt ever really turn my wheel fully been paying attention lately.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by KROSSFIRE1988
Any input on how low the front can go and not have major rubbing issues? Im not to worried about full turn rubbing as long as i can drive n turn i dnt ever really turn my wheel fully been paying attention lately.
I never had a problem but a 5mm spacer would be an easy fix if you are talking about the bolt thats in there. Like i said just do a coil and see how you like it instead of doing more and regretting it.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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on my crossfire i purchased m/b slk eibach pro-kit springs before they were revised and came out with a crossfire application. the slk springs dropped my car about 2" (much greater than the crossfire application). i also added spacers (front 10mm & rear 15mm) to my crossfire and later added konis for a crisper rebound. the only rubbing that occured was in the front when in reverse under complete lock of the wheel. i never experienced tire wear either and never added links or plates to mine.

hope this helps.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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save your money and get Eibachs or Full Out KWs. Ultimately Coilovers are going to give you the most adjust-ability. they are a bit pricey but in the long run i personally would rather spend the money over trying to re-engineer a factory item. Coils are made for certain tolerances from factory, by cutting them you completely change what Chrysler/Mercedes Spent many many man hours creating. Either Aftermarket Springs or Full-Blown Coilovers.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EGPhoto
save your money and get Eibachs or Full Out KWs. Ultimately Coilovers are going to give you the most adjust-ability. they are a bit pricey but in the long run i personally would rather spend the money over trying to re-engineer a factory item. Coils are made for certain tolerances from factory, by cutting them you completely change what Chrysler/Mercedes Spent many many man hours creating. Either Aftermarket Springs or Full-Blown Coilovers.
Absolutely incorrect, the crossfire has a special suspension in that if you cut a coil off you change nothing but the ride height, your shocks may become rough but you can buy konis. The coilovers for this car are not easily adjustable and a waste of money.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by caseycowan5
Absolutely incorrect, the crossfire has a special suspension in that if you cut a coil off you change nothing but the ride height, your shocks may become rough but you can buy konis. The coilovers for this car are not easily adjustable and a waste of money.
"special suspension"? are you out of your mind? coils springs are metal that is heated, wound and hardened to certain specifications. you cant tell me (just making up numbers) that a spring that is meant to hold lets say 850 lbs can be cut by 20% and still have the same tolerances. if that was the case then aftermarket suspensions companies would be out of business, everyone would just cut their coils. maybe you can get away with it but its not "special suspension", dont spread stupidity because its contagious
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 02:16 PM
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"special suspension"? are you out of your mind? coils springs are metal that is heated, wound and hardened to certain specifications. you cant tell me (just making up numbers) that a spring that is meant to hold lets say 850 lbs can be cut by 20% and still have the same tolerances. if that was the case then aftermarket suspensions companies would be out of business, everyone would just cut their coils. maybe you can get away with it but its not "special suspension", dont spread stupidity because its contagious
Have you taken out our coils? Just wondering because its unlike most cars because our spring is the exact same all the way up and down it does not get larger, slimmer or anything. And dont listen to me, go read the 100s of posts about how it is ok to cut our springs without any consequences and i used special for a lack of better words.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 02:39 PM
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Have you taken out our coils? Just wondering because its unlike most cars because our spring is the exact same all the way up and down it does not get larger, slimmer or anything. And dont listen to me, go read the 100s of posts about how it is ok to cut our springs without any consequences and i used special for a lack of better words.
i think you need to take your engineering degree back to walmart my friend. you may be able to get away with it, but there is NO WAY the spring rates are the same. its just not possible
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by EGPhoto
i think you need to take your engineering degree back to walmart my friend. you may be able to get away with it, but there is NO WAY the spring rates are the same. its just not possible
Dont have my degree yet, but ive taken out, cut, and installed my springs 10+ times and i can tell you that nothing has changed except how good my car looks
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by caseycowan5
Have you taken out our coils? Just wondering because its unlike most cars because our spring is the exact same all the way up and down it does not get larger, slimmer or anything. And dont listen to me, go read the 100s of posts about how it is ok to cut our springs without any consequences and i used special for a lack of better words.
If you shorten a spring with a constant rating the spring will take more force to compress it a given amount. That increase in force is directly related to the amount removed from the spring.

If you shorten a spring with a variable rating then the force needed to compress it a given amount will be more, it will vary depending on which end of the spring was shortened. The increase in force will be harder to calculate and depend on the springs compression/load design.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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Dont have my degree yet, but ive taken out, cut, and installed my springs 10+ times and i can tell you that nothing has changed except how good my car looks
ill leave this here

Suspension Coil Spring Rate Design Equations Formulas Calculator
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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Listen im not here to argue about the physics of a spring. I am simply telling you that you can cut our cars springs safely and it does not have a terribly dangerous effect on your car. Also the coilover system for this car is not adjustable without taking out the spring anyways. That is all.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by caseycowan5
Listen im not here to argue about the physics of a spring. I am simply telling you that you can cut our cars springs safely and it does not have a terribly dangerous effect on your car. Also the coilover system for this car is not adjustable without taking out the spring anyways. That is all.
This is what you said earlier;
Originally Posted by caseycowan
Absolutely incorrect, the crossfire has a special suspension in that if you cut a coil off you change nothing but the ride height,
Now you have changed to '..... and it does not have a terribly dangerous effect on your car', there is a change in what you imply.

It is easy to admit your mistake on this point. Just copy and paste the following statement into your next post.

'Sorry,I made a mistake on that statement'

That was easy wasn't it.
 

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