Spongy brakes fixed!
Spongy brakes fixed!
Long story but last year I installed brembo calipers, ss lines, pads, etc. I bought and used a power bleeder. The brake would depress about an inch before engaging then if pumped once engage right away. I tried bleeding it again probably six times with the buddy system or the power bleeder. Same.
Somebody recently said the master cylinder has a piston that has to travel a little to engage on initial brake which seemed to make sense.
Today I installed speed bleeders and pumped each caliper five times for a bleed. When installing I noticed right away the threads were much more snug. Now FIXED. Brake right away. A few others on here have mentioned the same issue. Try the speed bleeders. They are $15 ea for the stainless steel but even if they don't solve your problem, they are much better made than the OEM.
Good luck.
Somebody recently said the master cylinder has a piston that has to travel a little to engage on initial brake which seemed to make sense.
Today I installed speed bleeders and pumped each caliper five times for a bleed. When installing I noticed right away the threads were much more snug. Now FIXED. Brake right away. A few others on here have mentioned the same issue. Try the speed bleeders. They are $15 ea for the stainless steel but even if they don't solve your problem, they are much better made than the OEM.
Good luck.
Re: Spongy brakes fixed!
Long story but last year I installed brembo calipers, ss lines, pads, etc. I bought and used a power bleeder. The brake would depress about an inch before engaging then if pumped once engage right away. I tried bleeding it again probably six times with the buddy system or the power bleeder. Same.
Somebody recently said the master cylinder has a piston that has to travel a little to engage on initial brake which seemed to make sense.
Today I installed speed bleeders and pumped each caliper five times for a bleed. When installing I noticed right away the threads were much more snug. Now FIXED. Brake right away. A few others on here have mentioned the same issue. Try the speed bleeders. They are $15 ea for the stainless steel but even if they don't solve your problem, they are much better made than the OEM.
Good luck.
Somebody recently said the master cylinder has a piston that has to travel a little to engage on initial brake which seemed to make sense.
Today I installed speed bleeders and pumped each caliper five times for a bleed. When installing I noticed right away the threads were much more snug. Now FIXED. Brake right away. A few others on here have mentioned the same issue. Try the speed bleeders. They are $15 ea for the stainless steel but even if they don't solve your problem, they are much better made than the OEM.
Good luck.
Re: Spongy brakes fixed!
be aware stainless steel screwed into aluminum calipers can be a real pain if the threads gall. the bleeders will pull the threads right out of the aluminum. don't forget to use some pipe dope on the threads.
also pass rear first, drivers rear, then pass front, then drivers front. on the dual bleeder front brakes do the inside bleeders then the outside
also pass rear first, drivers rear, then pass front, then drivers front. on the dual bleeder front brakes do the inside bleeders then the outside
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Re: Spongy brakes fixed!
Do not use pipe dope. The site says the threads are pretreated, so this is not required. Also the possibility of pipe dope getting into the oil is best avoided.
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"The pre-applied thread sealant also displaces air and moisture during thread engagement preventing rust."
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"The pre-applied thread sealant also displaces air and moisture during thread engagement preventing rust."
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Dave, you beat me to it!
"Patented thread sealing system seals the threads when the bleeding operation is performed, preventing air from being sucked back into the system.
The pre-applied thread sealant also displaces air and moisture during thread engagement preventing rust...which usually results in rounded off corners on the hex or busted off bleeder screws making it necessary to replace the caliper or brake cylinder. The application of thread sealant thus makes it easy to loosen or remove the bleeder screw at any time."
"Patented thread sealing system seals the threads when the bleeding operation is performed, preventing air from being sucked back into the system.
The pre-applied thread sealant also displaces air and moisture during thread engagement preventing rust...which usually results in rounded off corners on the hex or busted off bleeder screws making it necessary to replace the caliper or brake cylinder. The application of thread sealant thus makes it easy to loosen or remove the bleeder screw at any time."
Re: Spongy brakes fixed!
Do not use pipe dope. The site says the threads are pretreated, so this is not required. Also the possibility of pipe dope getting into the oil is best avoided.
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"The pre-applied thread sealant also displaces air and moisture during thread engagement preventing rust."
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"The pre-applied thread sealant also displaces air and moisture during thread engagement preventing rust."
regardless I'm not a fan of s/s threads on aluminum. just my .02
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Re: Spongy brakes fixed!
and yes anti seize on all threads is a safe practice unless the specifics say not to for a dry torque application
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Also an old mechanic gave me a good tip. If your brakes are working good, instead of messing with the bleeder screws to change the fluid periodically, just remove the fluid from the reservoir and refill each year. That way you aren't messing with the system and keep fresh fluid.
Re: Spongy brakes fixed!
Also an old mechanic gave me a good tip. If your brakes are working good, instead of messing with the bleeder screws to change the fluid periodically, just remove the fluid from the reservoir and refill each year. That way you aren't messing with the system and keep fresh fluid.
Re: Spongy brakes fixed!
and its the water moisture that developes over time that does the damage.