Ok, yeah that helps - My car is still under warranty, the seat heater doesn't do anything even at the highest setting, nothing - I guess I should take it in, the problem is I just took it in a month ago, to have them fix the cupholder under warranty - actually I told them to just take it out and replace it w/ the storage bin. That cupholder was driving me crazy, I was ok w/ it but everytime a passenger got in my car they would pop it out. Also it took them 2 1/2 days just to replace the cup holder, it seemed excessive to me - I had a rental car a sonata, but I still missed my crossfire - It seems I will have to take it in soon again, the weather is getting cold - Thanks -