Originally Posted by HDDP
No, you are correct with the base OEM numbers... but obviously you have never dyno'd a Crossfire, nor have you tuned one... It looks as though you are speculating... The naturally aspirated Crossfire only puts 170 -180 hp to the wheel... with TQ in the range of 200 - 220... Depending on the car...
So if you are advertising the aforementioned numbers, you are basing them on a hypothetical and ZERO actual information...
Don't come onto this forum and say you can add "X" amount of HP with your chip tuning until you have the data to back it up...
215 crank hp and 170 wheel hp = 20% drivetrain loss
236 crank hp and 187 wheel hp = 20% drivetrain loss
estimated of course ... i understand you are weary of their numbers cause they are advertising crank numbers but that is how these companies have had to go about it in the past cause MB owners are not a bunch that will buy a product that advertises 187 total hp on their 215 hp vehicle ... they just do not differentiate the two so their advertising contains little real information i agree ...
a gain of 21 hp to the crank is no small feat being that its a near 10% bump over stock power but seeing the air fuel ratio numbers you have provided us with before HDDP (thank you for that by the way) it may be the one NA car i could find it realistic on ...
HDDP, what would a realistic number look like to you for tuning on this ECU ? just out of curiosity...