Originally Posted by Maxwell
I think it puts out about 190-200 hp to the flywheel, and it's really not a deal compared to the crossfire IMO. I think the cooper S is $28-$30k, very overpriced, I think your better off with the 250 hp Acura or Civic or dare I say an Evo, blah!
But it has a good aftermarket. I've heard there are engine upgrades that make 250-275 to the ground but they probably cost you $3-$4,000. So are you really getting your monies worth.
The new Mini Cooper S is now turbocharged and puts down 172 hp and 177 ft/lbs of torque and weighs under 2,700 lbs. It runs about a 15.1 in the quarter, but I don't know what the mph is so I don't know how "traction challenged" it is there but I do know its geared pretty high @ 3.64 but then again its getting almost 37 mpg highway and in the very high 20's in the city, so thats an acceptable trade-off IMO.
As far as the 250 hp Acura or Civic goes, which Acura are you speaking of? I do like the Civic Si alot, but the Mini is just a cool *** car, period! It does have that styling like the Crossfire in the terms of you know exactly what it is when you see it. Like I said before, I liked my Crossfire and but this is something I actually wanted 2 years ago, not something I jumped into and was more impressed than I thought I'd be. In other words I made a mistake with getting the Crossfire and will now correct it with something I REALLY want. I've always felt like the Crossfire was someone else's cool car that I got to drive for a long time, thats not a bad thing, just the way I feel. I'm never going to bash the car, EVER, because its done everything I've asked of it w/o a fuss, even returning better mpg, quicker quarter mile times and a load of fun on the Dragon the last 2 years I went down there. When I'm older and look back on the cars I've owned in the past the Crossfire will more than likely be the only sports car I've ever owned and I will be able to say it was a great time in the car while I was there.
Now, about the Mini being "over priced", well I guess that's your opinion and the only thing I can say to that is go test drive one and get back with me. Yes the car can go into the high 20's/low 30's optioned out (I think mine is about $27.5K) and can go into the mid 30's with the JCW package installed and dare I say $40K all the way out, but this is one thing you've gotta consider about this car...personalization! The base price is $23K and you can go mild to wild to ***** out, its up to you. Very few cars allow you to do this from the factory or even give you the canvas to do so, the Mini is one of those cars and is an icon BTW.
Speaking of ICON, did you say EVO and BLAH in the same sentence.
