You have got to be kidding I have been lurking here for a while and everyone but a few love their cars. I know I love mine I have an '05 LTD in Red and I know I have the coolest car at work and there are quite a few nice cars at work. The closest thing I have seen is a Saturn Sky and with its 4 banger forget it did that with the lousy PT Cruiser we bought in 01 we ordered it and paid full price and it just broke even 4 yrs later on a trade in on a Pacifica which I can tell you is a much better ride. I bought the Xfire for less than 25k with about 23k miles which was high but the car was almost flawless.