RPM - I called on a lot of these that were under 22k and they were all supposedly sold. The interesting fact was some of the dealers had cars that were a lot like the listed ones for more money. hmm sounds a little like bate and switch. Anyways I did get a dealer in Texas who has a graphite limited roadster with 14K miles for $21,500. The only problem is it is a long ways from MI. He says it in excellent shape. Thanks for the help and I'm sure Dave will follow-up on this. I'll let you know what happens.