Well, those are all valid points. The dealers aren't buying these cars without a good profit in their sights. Retailing them for $25K shouldn't be a problem. I have seen them in my general area that have 10,000-12,000 on them for as little as $21,999 RETAIL however. But, seeing as I am a dealer, I don't plan on paying more than about $22,500 for a "new" used one with taxes and title.