Sure, and Chrysler used to build the Hemi 'Cuda, Honda the NSX, etc. But what does Toyota build today that generates any kind of driving excitement? Toyota seems to have lost their way in this department.

Look at the specs below on the new Camry. Those numbers are amazingly close to the old Supra Twin Turbo numbers, and from a naturally aspirated V6...in a Camry of all things!! My how times have changed. But a Camry is certainly not the type of car an enthusiast goes for when looking for a sedan, not when BMW, Audi and Infinity make what they do.