Originally Posted by NeverEnough
I've seen a Jeep SRT run a 12.94 stock... That's the quickest I've seen an 8 of any description run without mods. But like I mentioned before, I think my track is about .2 slow. My personal best was a 13.36 @105.19 on Michelin PS2 Summer Tires. The weather was terrible and the track was greasy as hell. Traction was an issue in addition to the 97 degree ambient temp outside. With a nice cool day and a sticky track, I'm fairly certain my car has a 12.99-13.0X in it with a little practice...
This is exactly what i mean... yes... we can all post numbers all day long... infact, lets take you and me, you ran 13.36 @ 105... on PS2, which are great tires... my buddy has them on his '99 Viper GTS... It is difficult for him to break them loose on the street. He has run 12.1 @ 119. So they are great street tires, I ran 13.06 @ 109 with a 2.0 60', on the original all-season tires. We both have the same car, you have the advantage of better rubber, and yet i'm .3 of a sec and 4 mph faster...
So the conclusion is, though the numbers are a decent start, they are not the end off be all in the comparisons of 2 cars... the only real way to have such a out come would be to have 2 stock cars basically with very similar tires and at the same track at the same time.
All i'm saying is that you have to take every single variable when comparing 2 cars. I"m not saying that does jeeps didn't run mid 12's... i'm saying that i would of loved to see a srt6 at that track on that day with that kind of track prep.