Cool cars, I had a Miata and had a ball in it and a Solstice and they are so so IMHO but I like my XF. I drove the crap out of my Miata no matter what the weather was but can't bring myself to take the XF out unless its sunny and I am not sure why because I'm going to wash and wax it every chance I get anyway so why not... I don't know. Back to the thread the cars are cool but I guess they don't think the XF is "Frugal".