A little more background. I have a friend in the auto restoration business and he sent me to guy in Mesa to build me a custom grill. The cost was high and as I was leaving the area, I happened to see another shop and went in to ask, and that led me to the current fabricator, which primarily does suspension systems for trucks. Later, after I was embarking on the venture and having some problems, I went back and told my friend (the resoration specialist and his associates) what was going on. They let me know that if they had known who I was doing business with they would have warned me. Oh well, I figured I would give it a shot, it was worth a try.