If the Forum wants to deal with this petty stuff have at it. I won't dignify it with a response. They are here now because eBay has taken action their listings using my photos and this is the only place they can go to sell. My efforts from here on will be on developing a grill that I think responds to what we want. This grill is a nice one but I won't get into bickering over it. They can sell it all they want.