Originally Posted by irwin
like i said lessons in life thats what you need. having **** handed to you teaches you nothing at all, blood sweat and tears, builds character and pride, what a man needs. you cant buy experience or respect, you earn it. to earn these things you take your beatings stand up and ask for another with a smile on your face. i could go to school for free through my company, for anything i want. but im happy working shoulder to shoulder with real men, who stand up and perform every day, no matter the conditions. im proud to work with the men i work with, and in my company you earn your stripes in the field not in a class room. my best days at work are the ones that are 14 - 16 hours long and i come home exhausted covered in sweat or freezing cold depending on the season, most days bleeding, i love it, i live for it, and it gives me a sense of pride to come home and look around and say i earned every thing i have. sitting in a cuibicle just isnt for everyone. before you go and disrespect someone think about what your saying and how it might effect them, because one day youll open your mouth to the wrong person that isnt 1200 miles away and acting coy wont get you out of it.
I wouldn't say having **** handed to you doesn't teach you life lessons, and my life isn't all sunshine and butterflies as you would assume it is. I wasn't born into a world where my dad was already a doctor, my family was poor for a long time during his school and residency, the finally he got a job and things started getting better. I'm not some cheap male knock off version of one of the hilton sisters, I know what it is to work for something, or even towards something. I'm not some idiot that has had everything handed to him when he asks, I have to work for some of my own stuff too. Granted I don't come home bleeding, but I come home with a little bit less of my soul everyday I work for tech support, it's a nightmare sometimes
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I'm not 100% sure why you're happy settling for working 14-16 hour days, I haven't met someone ever that likes working that much, most people that have those jobs are working towards something better so they can lead a more peaceful and restful life.
As for experience and respect, no you can't buy it, but working getting your *** kicked day in day out isn't the only way to get it. I'm not a big fan of people that "had it rough" preaching that living that way is the only way to build character and make people understand what the real world is. You learn the real world by living in it, not having the crap kicked out of you at your job. One way isn't going to do it for everyone, I will say though it does help for sure.
As far my mouth goes, and disrespecting people, there's never a situation where you can't calm someone down by talking it out and reasoning/rationalizing with them. I can't think of an experience where I've had someone wanting to punch me, because I normally don't let it get that far, most of the time if someone has a problem with me I just talk to them and ask them why they have an issue and see what I did to **** them off in the first place. After doing that a few times, you really start to understand where the fine line is with people and how far you can go.
I would listen to what you said about disrespect, and having character, but you show a pretty poor example of what it is to have respect and character.
Just look at your first few posts, how do you expect ANYONE to take your advice when you can't even follow it yourself? I came to this forum with a funny story of a guy that got his back hurt and was sent to the E.R by a matchbox car, and look how you responded. How can you tell me that you've learned what respect and character are, and tell me I need to not disrespect people when you pretty much started this whole debacle to begin with?
Can you honestly go back and reread everything you've said to me and be able to look at me in the eyes and tell me that you're a better person than I am?
As for the I need to be careful about what I say because I never know when I'll find someone that lives close to home, to be honest, the funniest insult anyone EVER tells me, is when they threaten to beat me up. Because at that point that means that they reached the point to where their mind can't think of anything else to say and the ONLY way they can win the argument is by trying to overcome me physically.
You really find out how weak minded people are by how quick they are to jump to that point.
I'm not trying to disrepsect you at all, but more so trying to show you that I didn't come here to start a war, or a pissing contest, but just a story to share, and to call a triple dog dare (the biggest of them all!) from someone on the 8 forum. I had no intent on trying to start a fued, but with the warm greeting you gave me, what the hell else was I suppose to do? Stop posting and enable your behavior that threating people is the only way to settle an argument? Hell no.