WOW, I've read this whole thread and all I can say is "how in the world did this get so heated?" Things never get this crazy in the srt section, LOL. I was actually thinking of getting an 8, but when I seen how cheap the srt's were I couldn't resist. I like both rx8s and N/A xfires. Bothe are nice cars and have their own particular strong suites. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I'd like to say welcome to the rx8 owners who came to this forum. I promise, its not always this hostile (unless you talk trash about my PATS ).