lol I think I dont know I want the performance but I have been wanting to do this mod for sometime hell It sounds better then the magnaflow, its not obnoxious, and I don't know when needswings set up will be done, chances are it will be in the 1500 range as well maybe more. It might be more to our advantage to get some let headers and cut this bad boy out. I have heard clips before but the before and after sounds really good. I don't know why they didn't just remove this at the factory. OF coarse if the needswings kit is done before the end of summer, and sounds amazing with no resonating in the cab (hate it more then anything) and is in the 1100 dollar range, WITH HP increases to back up the product, This would be a waste of a 100 dollars right now I'm not too worried about it. thanks for razing me though lol