Coyote, I noted in my first post "I know this sounds like a really crappy PERSPECTIVE on this story, but it's the first thing that came into my head after hearing about this." I'm not thrilled this opinion crossed my mind, but it was based on this story and his many previous postings over the last month or so. If Irwin had to swerve into a tree to miss a deer, it's a sad thing and I'm certainly sorry as everyone else that it happened. My main reason for the original post was based on Irwin's many past posts touting his financial situation, I noted that "he should hope that his insurance company doesn't get their hands on all of his postings on this site". He might want to take note of his previous posts on this site regarding his much publicized financial situation and his car and this accident. I hate when threads do the downward spiral thing. In this case, my apologies to everyone for turning this thread into a flamer. I guess part of what got me going yesterday in this thread, is that my 18yr old son also wants to enlist in the Air Force this year (edited: comment on the war removed, I wasn't trying to start an argument, just concerned about my son). Anyway, sorry. I hope everyone will please calm down a little bit now.