great feedback guys, actually it does sound like where the seat belt comes out, it does it with top down and up so its not the top i totally went through everything i could today without tearing everything apart and didn't find it, i will have to take that apart tomorrow by the seat belt where am i supposed to put this felt?, also how should i take the interior of my door apart without breaking stuff i would like to check that too. i already tried moving my seat up and passengers and that didn't work. any more opinions would be great, and trust me i will find it, it is driving me nuts. wierd how sometimes it is worse than others. ill spray a hose of ky in everywhere if i have to, lol