I can't believe I even hung in there for all the bs...I have 23 yr old twin sons and a 21 yr old son. Twin just graduated IU, and the youngest just finished his junior yr...twins have grand ams, youngest Mitzi Eclipse....wheels and tires, but no other mods...they think they are driving sports cars...its what you have fun with...we old dogs know, we have owned them, played with them, these kids haven't, but they like to fit in and talk the talk, but walking the walk they haven't done yet...just ignore and have fun with it...I still work on their cars while they brag to their friends what they just did to their cars....I just shake my head, and go back into the garage and polish the old Harley, I suggest we all do the same...