Originally Posted by SRT-6 Steve
Not arguing but just throwing my 2 cents in. I agree with everything you mentioned except for one. The statement about would have included it as original equipment or fixed it when the vehicle went into production.
Oh you're absolutely right - there are a ton of things that don't get put in because it raises the cost, has limited mass-market appeal, may reduce Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE), reduce the life of key components (like tires, brakes, and so on), and generally not offer an improved experience for the average consumer. I hear you all the way. I have seven years of fairly substantial mods to one of my vehicles that proves this for my style of motoring.
No, what I meant was, some of the claims surrounding hyper-ground "systems" is that they "fix" problems. And what I was saying was if there really were problems that the hyper-ground could fix, the manufacturer would fix the problem (or include the hyperground). That's not the case.
There is one manufacturer that actually does offer a hyper-ground product as a branded item. I have to say that it didn't convince me of the merit of the hyper-ground. It convinced me that some companies will sell anything if there's a sucker out there that will buy it. I don't think anyone who really understands electronics and automotive engineering would every buy the story, and I doubt even less they'd spend their money trying to prove a false-advertising claim against the manufacturers.
The first time I heard of these things was about five years ago and I was amazed that people actually believed it. Me, I'd rather spend the few hundred dollars on something that does make a difference or materially improves my automotive experience.
Now to be fair, I know there are hundreds of people driving around their cars with these things on who swear by them, love the way they feel after they install them, believe the car is faster, etc. I get the same feeling out of a good car washing and detailing. I know my car goes faster after that last coat of wax! To each his own.
Just trying to save the poor kid who only has a couple hundred to spend on his/her car and thinks this is really going to matter. Spend your money on an OBD diagnostic interface for your laptop, or a good set of quality tools.
Here's an old thread on hyperground where I was a lot less kind.
http://matrixowners.com/?showtopic=5465&st=180