Originally Posted by Kurts
Oops, forgot one more thing........Popeye's comments on Chinese made flour. bulbs:
Tell me just where your incandescent bulbs are made? Frankly, just what the heck ISN'T made in China anymore.......kinda sickens me when I think about it.
LED light strips ARE cool. Actually, I'm thinking about scoring a LED light strip for under my kitchen cabinets. We've got crappy lighting in the kitchen anyways..........
Mercury based bulbs are considered hazardous BUT are also everywhere. The amount in an individual "curly" bulb is tiny & they can be thrown out in the trash. Large quantities of those jumbo bulbs you see in your department or grocery stores require special storage & disposal. The mercury content in most bulbs is coming down. They'll get better.
It's been awhile since I chimed in here so it's time to put my 2 shillings worth of thoughts down electronically

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Global warming myth - well maybe, like I've stated in other posts, we don't live long enough to really know how this will turn out; no long term perspective have we. The Earth has gone through mini-ice ages & mini-hot spells before. The key argument is whether or not this spate of warming we're experiencing is man-made. There's the rub.
Are we warming up? Yup; glaciers melting all over the world kinda point to that, I have no argument with what's in front of my eyes but is it man-made? Are we dumping enough CO2 & Methane & all the other gases into the atmosphere to cause a change in global temperatures. Hundreds of scientists from around the world believe so. The majority of them do not appear to have an "agenda" to do so. But, once again, do we have enough LONG TERM evidence to conclusively say: "Mankind is screwing up the Earth"? I say not quite yet.
I will say that I believe we may not have been decent stewards in the past, look at some of our rivers in the 60's, etc., but I believe we are doing a by far better job. Maybe we can do even better?!
I've got to say this has been a pretty darn civil discussion. I'm impressed

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Time for our evening walk around the park.
Later, guys!!
Kurts my man, it's not about the details mate it's about the
government forcing me to buy curly bulbs as if I lived in Russia.
That is what I object to, and you should too before the government
starts subtracting from your individual rights even more. That is
where the environmental movement is headed. It is about politics
and power over you and your money and your life. Bit by bit they
are going to take away your freedoms. Using the seemingly benign
Trojan Horse of saving the environment as their tool. Fortunately
for all of us this gasoline price increase has opened a lot of eyes
around the world and shown millions just how much power the
environmental lobby has via congress and congressional votes
over your life and mine.
But if details are what floats your boat. After all the screaming and
whining about mercury polution that the enviroManiacs were
bleating about they are silent on the mercury contained in every
single one of these curly bulbs. By environmental rule from the EPA
you cannot just throw them in the trash, they are considered
hazardous material. There is a procedure for disposal of them
that is quite extensive, with a penalty of jail time if you don't do it.
That alone should sound a very loud alarm in everyones ears.
Lastly my experience in the longevity of my WalMart purchased
curly bulbs has not been sterling, I notice no decrease in my
electric bill, and the illumination they put out is off color and dimmer
than my normal 40 watt incandescents...This is what happens
when you give politicians and bureaucrats power and give them
a way to kiss up to their constituents to harvest those votes,
so that they don't have to apply at Burger King for a job they
can handle. EPA rules have cost this country billions...